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mariam tieliZe<br />
294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com<br />
Project ArtBeat-ma organizeba gauwia jgufur gamofenas. Tan-<br />
amSromlobasa da profesionalizmze damyarebuli am proeqtis<br />
mTavari idea Cveni dedaqalaqi Tbilisia.<br />
„qronika+”-is SekiTxvebs kura-<br />
tori naTia bukia pasuxobs:<br />
_ rogor gaCnda am proeqtis<br />
idea?<br />
_ me gaxlavarT gamofenis kuratori<br />
da Project ArtBeat-is erT-erTi<br />
damfuZnebeli. gamofena, Zalian<br />
martivad, Tbiliss exeba. idea ramdenime<br />
wlis winaT momivida da<br />
axlaxan ganvaxorciele. gavlena<br />
moaxdina, magaliTad, mamuka jafariZis<br />
1995 wels gadaRebulma<br />
fotoebma. mamukas gamofena gvqonda<br />
Cvens moZrav galereaSi mTawmindaze.<br />
man aq gaakeTa „kamera obskuri”,<br />
anu konteineri gaxvrita _<br />
roca SigniT Sexvidodi da kars<br />
daxuravdi, erTi mxridan Tbilisi<br />
irekleboda da meore mxridan _<br />
anZa. plus, es fotoebic rom gva-<br />
Cvena, isinic gamovfineT da, ase Tu<br />
ise, kontrasti Canda _ rogori iyo<br />
adre Tbilisi da, wlebis Semdeg,<br />
zustad imave adgilidan gadaRebuli<br />
fotoebiT Cans, rogor gamoiyureba<br />
dedaqalaqi dRes. es fotoebi<br />
maSin im konkretuli gamofenis<br />
farglebSi gamoifina. fotoebi<br />
imdenad kargad ar iyo naCvenebi.<br />
aqedan gamomdinare, mominda,<br />
rom isini sxva konteqstSi gamomefina.<br />
Semdeg maTgan idea wamovida<br />
Tbilisze.<br />
_ ra miznebzea is orientire-<br />
buli?<br />
_ rogorc ukve aRvniSne, gamofenili<br />
namuSevrebis ZiriTadi<br />
idea Tbilisia. TiTqmis yvela namuSevari<br />
manamdec arsebobda er-<br />
Tis garda, romelic aris salome<br />
dumbaZis namuSevari „kbili”. erTaderTi<br />
is iyo, romelsac vuTxari,<br />
rom gamofenas vgegmavdi Tbilisze<br />
da Sesabamisi masala moemzadebina.<br />
martivad rom vTqva, es yvelaferi<br />
did siRrmiseul kvlevaze ar aris<br />
damyarebuli. ubralod, me ra namuSevrebic<br />
vicodi, isini mindoda<br />
gamofeniliyo. an nino sexniaSvilis<br />
SemTxvevaSi mindoda, rom is<br />
warmoCeniliyo. mainteresebda misi<br />
reliefuri, xeze namuSevrebi. sainteresoa,<br />
rom man namuSevari momca,<br />
romelsac hqvia „foTi”. idea is<br />
aris, Tu, realurad, ra qmnis qalaqs<br />
da rogori iqneboda Tbilisi,<br />
is rom porti yofiliyo. es namuSevari<br />
TbilisTan am detaliT<br />
aris dakavSirebuli. SeiZleba iTqvas,<br />
rom es aris Cemi piradi da<br />
koleqtiuri miZRvna Tbilisis mimarT.<br />
plus, es aris, garkveulwilad,<br />
mowodeba an SeTavazeba damTvaliereblis<br />
mimarT, rom is ufro<br />
metad daakvirdes Cveul garemos.<br />
xSirad es Cemi piradidan iyo gamowveuli,<br />
radgan adre, zogadad,<br />
Zalian daukvirvebeli adamiani viyavi,<br />
naklebad vakvirdebodi imas,<br />
Tu ra xdeboda Cem garSemo. raRacebi<br />
Seicvala da mgonia, rom es<br />
cvlileba sxvebis SemTxvevaSic SeiZleba,<br />
moxdes. amasTan erTad, gansakuTrebiT<br />
xelovnebis samyaroSi,<br />
mimaCnia, rom piradi gamocdilebebi<br />
Zalian mniSvnelovania. swored<br />
is qmnis WeSmarit namuSevrebs. is<br />
adgili (am SemTxvevaSi _ Tbilisi),<br />
sadac cxovrob, Cveni piradi gamocdilebebis<br />
Zalian did nawils<br />
warmoadgens. me rom am sferoSi<br />
moRvaweoba daviwye, qarTveli mxatvrebis<br />
mxridan danakliss ganvicdidi<br />
da iseTi SegrZneba mqonda,<br />
rom STagonebas ufro metad<br />
garedan iRebdnen, vidre _ Signidan.<br />
garda piradi gamocdilebebisa,<br />
Zalian bevri sakiTxia saqarTveloSi<br />
iseTi, romelic mniSvnelovania<br />
da, SeiZleba, inspiraciis wyaroc<br />
iyos. guli mwydeboda, rom xelovnebaSi<br />
am sakiTxebs ver vxedavdi,<br />
Tumca mgonia, rom bolo ram-<br />
30<br />
denime wlis manZilze es tendencia<br />
Seicvala. marTalia, am gamofenaze<br />
Zalian bevri Zveli namuSevaria,<br />
magram araerTi maTgani axali Sesrulebulia.<br />
gamofenilia fotomasala,<br />
videomasala da naxatebi.<br />
rodesac salome dumbaZes vuTxari,<br />
rom gamofena Tbilisze da,<br />
zogadad, imaze iyo, ra xdeba adamianebis<br />
garSemo, rogorc ukve<br />
aRvniSne, man gaakeTa „kbili”. es gamomdinare<br />
iqidan, rom, TiTqos, adamiani<br />
kbils rom icvlis, is saku-<br />
Tar pirovnebasa da gonebaSi raRacebs<br />
gadaxarSavs da izrdeba. es<br />
konkretuli namuSevari am ideis<br />
matarebelia.<br />
_ Tu iyo xelovanTaTvis raime<br />
CarCo, romelSic maT sakuTari<br />
namuSevrebi unda moeqciaT?<br />
_ garda imisa, rom is mxatvrebi<br />
da namuSevrebi SevarCie, romlebic<br />
me momwonda, aranairi SezRudvebi<br />
da CarCoebi ar yofila. piriqiT, eg<br />
aris mniSvnelovani, rom absoluturi<br />
Tavisufleba iyo. magali-<br />
Tad, amas is adasturebs, rom nino<br />
sexniaSvilis namuSevars hqvia „fo-<br />
Ti”. anu piriqiT, es iyo CemTvis<br />
saintereso. zogi namuSevari me<br />
TviTon SevarCie da arc mikiTxavs<br />
avtorisTvis, sxva namuSevrebis<br />
SesaZleblobac Tu iyo. eg bevrs<br />
niSnavda, ra masalic momzadebis<br />
idea mouvidoda TviTon Semoqmeds,<br />
gamofenis farglebSi. magaliTad,<br />
sainteresoa is, rom ninos mouvida<br />
idea da daiwyo fiqri, _ ra qmnis<br />
qalaqs? konkretuli adamiani,<br />
SeiZleba, konkretuli mimarTulebiT<br />
fiqrobs, magram Tu sxva<br />
monawile Tu damTvalierebeli<br />
sxva kuTxiT daiwyebs fiqrs, es<br />
kidev ufro sianteresoa.<br />
_ damTvaliereblebis intere-<br />
si rogoria?<br />
_ gaxsnazec bevri adamiani iyo<br />
mosuli da yoveldRiuradac gvstumroben.<br />
namdvilad ver getyviT,<br />
konkretulad, am gamofenis gamo<br />
modian Tu _ galereis gamo? ician,<br />
galerea ra saxis gamofenebs sTavazobs<br />
maT da Zalian bevrs ainteresebs<br />
xolme. ra Tqma unda, iseTebic<br />
iyvnen, romlebic konkretulad<br />
am gamofenis gamo modiodnen.<br />
_ zogadad, jgufuri gamofene-<br />
bi ramdenad xSirad imarTeba da<br />
risTvis aris es saWiro?<br />
_ msgavsi tipisa da Tematikis<br />
gamofenebi Zalian mniSvnelovnad<br />
mimaCnia. es imitom, rom xelovnebas<br />
zustad is datvirTva aqvs, raRacaze<br />
dagafiqros. mas SeuZlia, rom<br />
konkretuli Tema gacilebiT mZafrad<br />
aRgaqmevinos adamians da saerTod<br />
sxva kuTxiT daanaxvos is<br />
mas. am adamianis mxridan sakiTxSi<br />
Caxedvis procesic bevrad saintereso<br />
xdeba. Cven maqsimalurad<br />
vcdilobT organizebas. am gamofenamde<br />
ori gamofeniT adre, isev<br />
jgufuri gamofenis farglebSi,<br />
Cemi kuratorobiT gaimarTa gamofena,<br />
Tema gaxldaT genderi. es<br />
Tema CemTvis yovelTvis gansakuTrebulad<br />
mniSvnelovani iyo da Cemi<br />
mosazrebebi da ideebi swored mis<br />
farglebSi gamovxate. mgonia, rom<br />
es Tema Zalian aqtualuria, zogadad,<br />
msoflios masStabiT da, gansakuTrebiT,<br />
saqarTvelos magaliTze.<br />
miuxedavad imisa, rom me var<br />
erT-erTi damfuZnebeli da aqtiurad<br />
var CarTuli, es imas ar niSnavs,<br />
rom mxolod me gavakeTeb msgavs<br />
gamofenebs. ubralod, Tu<br />
iqneba saintereso gamofenebis SemoTavazebebi,<br />
Cven Ria varT amas-<br />
Tan dakavSirebiT. uamravi Tema arsebobs,<br />
romelic, SesaZloa, erT<br />
konkretul adamians exebodes. is<br />
mas gulwrfelad unda ganicdides<br />
`Tbilisi, Tbilisi~<br />
- jgufuri gamofena,<br />
romelmac adrindeli da<br />
axlandeli Tbilisi gvaCvena<br />
da masze nafiqri hqondes. zustad<br />
ar viciT, ramden gamofenas gavuwevT<br />
organizebas, magram Cven Zalian<br />
momarTulebi varT. amaze uke-<br />
Tesi sivrce CemTvis ar arsebobs,<br />
rom sakuTari azri gamovxato.<br />
_ ra saxis xelSewyobaa saWiro<br />
msgavsi gamofenebis organizebi-<br />
sTvis?<br />
_ msgavsi tipis gamofenebisTvis<br />
yvelaze mniSvnelovania, rom adamianebi<br />
dainteresdnen da movidnen.<br />
mediis CarTuloba umniSvnelovanesia.<br />
Cven ki vatyobinebT xolme<br />
televiziebs gamofenebis Sesaxeb,<br />
magram ramden gamofenaze SeiZleba,<br />
SevatyobinoT? Semdeg ukve Temaze<br />
imdenad yuradRebas ar amaxvileben.<br />
me kuratori arasdros vyofilvar<br />
da rac galerea gavxseniT,<br />
mas mere gavxdi. amis survili<br />
da ideebi TviTon movida. am mxriv<br />
yvelaze metad maklia kritika. miT<br />
umetes, rodesac damwyebi var,<br />
uaryofiTze xazgasma Zalian mniSvnelovania.<br />
samwuxarod, Jurnalistic<br />
Zalian cotaa, romelic am sferoSi<br />
erkveva. aseve xelovnebaTmcodneebic<br />
ar arian dainteresebulebi,<br />
marTali rom giTxraT,<br />
Tumca viRacebTan vTanamSromlobT.<br />
mesmis, roca amboben, rom<br />
monetaruli daintereseba ar aqvT,<br />
magram es ar aris gadamwyveti. bevria<br />
socialur qselSi Zalian aqtiuri.<br />
ar vambob, rom bevri energia<br />
daxarjon, magram garkveuli gamoxmaurebebi,<br />
mainc, xelmisawvdomi<br />
mgonia kritikis TvalsazrisiT. piradad,<br />
es yvelaze did danaklisad<br />
mimaCnia. realurad, xelovneba xalxisTvis<br />
aris. gansakuTrebiT, roca<br />
am konkretuli Tematikis gamofenas<br />
ukavSirdeba. misi mizania,<br />
rom saTqmeli xalxamde miitanos,<br />
daafiqros, SesTavazos. es xelovnebis<br />
sferoSi sasicocxlod mniSvnelovania.<br />
_ ucxo qveynis warmomadgen-<br />
lebis daintereseba rogoria?<br />
_ Zalian bevri turisti gvstumrobs.<br />
mosul turistzec gagviyidia<br />
namuSevrebi. magram es xSirad ar<br />
xdeba imitom, rom xelovnebis nimuSis<br />
yidva mniSvnelovani gadawyvetilebaa.<br />
Cveni mizani gaxlavT<br />
aseve xelovnebis qarTuli nimuSebis<br />
gatana sazRvrebs gareT da misi<br />
gacnoba danarCeni samyarosTvis. am<br />
mxriv Zalian vaqtiurobT.<br />
_ rogori iqneba proeqtis mo-<br />
mavali ganviTareba?<br />
_ Cven gvaqvs „moZravi galerea”,<br />
romelic ufro metad socialuri<br />
`am gamofenamde ori gamofeniT adre, isev<br />
jgufuri gamofenis farglebSi, Cemi<br />
kuratorobiT gaimarTa gamofena, Tema<br />
gaxldaT genderi. es Tema CemTvis yovelTvis<br />
gansakuTrebulad mniSvnelovani iyo da Cemi<br />
mosazrebebi da ideebi swored mis farglebSi<br />
gamovxate. mgonia, rom es Tema Zalian<br />
aqtualuria, zogadad, msoflios masStabiT da,<br />
gansakuTrebiT, saqarTvelos magaliTze~<br />
proeqtia da orientirebulia, rom<br />
xelovneba miitanos xalxTan. amitom<br />
vakeTebT gamofenebs xalxmraval<br />
adgilebSi _ garda Tbilisisa,<br />
aseve did qalaqebSi. quTais-<br />
Si, wyaltuboSi, baTumsa da Telav-<br />
Si gamofenebi gvqonda da Semodgomaze<br />
vgegmavT siRnaRSi. konkretulad<br />
am proeqtisTvis mniSvnelovania<br />
mxardaWera, radgan socialuri<br />
proeqtia da saxelmwifo iqneba<br />
Tu kerZo kompaniebi, mniSvnelovania,<br />
rom dafinansebis wyaroebi<br />
iyvnen. ra Tqma unda, cot-cota Tanxebs<br />
yovelTvis vpoulobT meriisa<br />
Tu kulturis saministros xelSewyobiT.<br />
kompaniebTanac gviTanamSromlia:<br />
„mTawmindis parki”,<br />
„isT poinTi”, „Ti-bi-si banki”. am<br />
kuTxiT saqmianobas aucileblad<br />
gavagrZelebT imitom, rom CvenTvis<br />
mniSvnelovania aRniSnuli proeqtiT<br />
xelovnebis sferoSi garkveuli<br />
wvlili SevitanoT.<br />
es mudmivi sivrce, sadac gamofenebi<br />
ewyoba, SarSan oqtomber-<br />
Si gavxseniT. rogorc aRvniSne,<br />
yvelaze mniSvnelovania, rom xalxma<br />
iaros da metad dainteresdes.<br />
garda dainteresebisa da Sefasebisa,<br />
kargi iqneba, Tuki koleqciebis<br />
SeZenas daiwyeben. minda aRvniSno,<br />
rom rac Cven varsebobT, namuSevrebis<br />
mimarT interesi marTla<br />
bevrad gaizarda. Tundac gayidvis<br />
kuTxiT _ bevrad meti klienti<br />
gvyavs saqarTvelos fargleb-<br />
Si, vidre maSin, rodesac pirvel<br />
nabijebs vdgamdiT. es aris sfero,<br />
romelSic mniSvnelovania miwodeba.<br />
informacias rom miawodeb da<br />
gaavrceleb es, TavisTavad, moTxovnis<br />
zrdas gamoiwvevs.<br />
30 N27 (248) 14.08-4.09.2018 w.
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