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NEW ENGLAND A, SSOCIATION OF FIRE CHIEFS<br />

Under our fire department working hours that would mean six men. We attempted to<br />

be fair in the questions <strong>of</strong> maintenance, garaging, etc., and all other problems.<br />

gave the advantages <strong>of</strong> having i t , and the disadvantages. We put it in an impartial way<br />

before the town, meeting--which meant the people themselves..<br />

The people voted against accepting an ambulance f.o,r nothing. It was the people<br />

speaking, and that is why I wish to put the thought before you men.<br />

CNAIRMAN WOOLLY.Y: I would like to explore this further, but we are going to<br />

have to cover many things. Any <strong>of</strong> you who are interested in the development <strong>of</strong> ambulance<br />

work can take a leaf from the .:bc,oks <strong>of</strong> the ambula~¢e:2seryices <strong>of</strong> Pennsylvania<br />

and <strong>New</strong> Jersey. Both <strong>of</strong> them operate many services. The. que_~ion is, whoShall<br />

the am~bulance? How shall it be paid for and .charged for? The money may come<br />

from a variety <strong>of</strong> .sources. We could discuss this at great length.<br />

You can get irif6rmation thro~ugh our ,<strong>of</strong>fice .<strong>of</strong> Fire Engineering, or yours truly,<br />

your technical consultant. There is an organization known as the International Rescue<br />

andl First Aid <strong>Association</strong> and its data is available to you.<br />

Now we have a question which I think simply cannot be by-passed. In fact, a<br />

number <strong>of</strong> the questions given us by the Panel have to do with this same prolblem. That<br />

is the subject <strong>of</strong> manpower. I would like to have us discuss these questions--we have<br />

two <strong>of</strong> them: One is Shorter working hours; One is, can a fireman perform outside part,<br />

time duty and still do justice to his wor k as a fireman? Many <strong>of</strong> yo,u men don’t have<br />

full-time work, :but full .and part-time. What .is your problem? Perhaps this will open<br />

plenty <strong>of</strong> discussion--and let each speaker try to keep it short.<br />

CHIEF FRANCIS SCULLY, Waterbury, ,C.o,nnecticut: During the Second W.orld<br />

War our Fire Commissioner allowed .the men to work part-time. Of course, labor was<br />

scarce theri, a_nd they were glad to getthe firemen. That is still in effect, providing they<br />

send a communication to the Chief stating where they are working and what hours. In<br />

my town--like probably a good many other towns--most <strong>of</strong> our boys are wo.rking parttime,<br />

and it is a question, whether a man--after working six or seven hours on part,<br />

time during the day--can do justice t.o his j,ob at night when he comes to work in the<br />

department.<br />

Another thought on that is tha.t a lot .<strong>of</strong> the work the firemen are asked to do on<br />

part-time jobs probably won’t be done by a full-time man; work such as heavy trucking,<br />

pulling and dragging. They probably get hurt and then naturally come to work, waiting<br />

for the bell-t6 hit. ¯ -<br />

Now that brings up another question--whether they should stop from working<br />

part-time, and if they are getting enough money to stop? If they are getting enough<br />

pay from the department they don’t have to have a part-time job. That is the problem<br />

I would like to have solved by you gentlemen out there.<br />

CHAIRMAN WOOLLEY: Thanks,-Chief Scully. We have a rather unique incident<br />

in this cc,nnec~ion. This same problem is affecting Canada as well as this country. I<br />

-will ask Fire ~Marshal Scott to tell us very quickly the story <strong>of</strong> the incident which happened<br />

in Canada.<br />

MR. W. J. SCOTT: I administer the state law in our Province. The firemen have<br />

a maximum work week <strong>of</strong> Y6 hours, which gives them the guaranteed wages common<br />

~n their community. The arguments have been that they don’t get fai~ treatment, unless<br />

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