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The Loeb-Leopold case - The Clarence Darrow Collection

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<strong>The</strong> <strong>Loeb</strong>-<strong>Leopold</strong> Case<br />

bank account at the Hyde Park State Bank under the<br />

name of Morton D. Ballard and gave that as the bank<br />

reference? A. I think it was.<br />

Q. Was it intellect, or boyish, childish fantasy working,<br />

when they took the bloody rope that they had<br />

wrapped the body in and saturated it with gasoline and<br />

took it to the lake to burn? A. I think it was their<br />

intellect.<br />

Q. Was it intellect or fantasy working, when they<br />

attempted to rub the bloodstains from the rented car?<br />

A. Intellect, I believe.<br />

Q. In other words, every detail of this crime is a<br />

crime of intellect, and not a fantasy? A. I think so.<br />

Q. And they are above the average intellect?<br />

A. One of them is; the other is not.<br />

Q. <strong>The</strong> other is not? A. I think he is just about<br />

average.<br />

Q. And so superintellect in one <strong>case</strong> and normal<br />

intellect in one <strong>case</strong> planned and carried out every de-<br />

tail of this crime? A. I think so.<br />

Q. Was it intellect or childish fantasy that caused<br />

<strong>Leopold</strong> to try to divert suspicion prior to his arrest to<br />

other persons? A. It was his intellect that worked.<br />

Q. Was it intellect or fantasy that caused <strong>Leopold</strong> to<br />

lie for two days to the State's Attorney of this county<br />

when first brought in? A. Intellect.<br />

Q. Was it intellect or fantasy that caused <strong>Loeb</strong> when<br />

brought to the State's Attorney to lie for a considerable<br />

period of time? A. I think it was his intellect.<br />

Q. Now were there any other emotions acting in conjunction<br />

with the intellect when they attempted to cover<br />

up this crime by the various things they did and by the<br />

various lies they told? A. It would be hard for me<br />

to say whether there was or not, or whether it was, very<br />

largely, an intellectual process.<br />

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