qronika+318

samarTlianobis aRdgenis da-
Sorena marsagiSvili
pirebiT mosul xelisuflebas
599 92 16 22
Zalian bevri gaxmaurebuli saqme
daugrovda gamosaZieblad. is
veRarc imiT iwonebs Tavs, rom misi mmarTvelobis dros ax-
algazrdebs quCaSi aRar xocaven.
ratom ar dgindeba sazRvre-
bi? ra xdeba mmarTveli partiis
kuluarebSi? ras da ratom ver
iyofen „ocnebaSi” arsebuli
klanebi? samarTlianobis aRdgenis
dapirebiT mosuli xelisufleba
Tavad ratom gaxda usa-
marTlobis Semoqmedi? ratom
datantalebs prezidenti fex-
SiSveli? ra safrTxeebs uqmnis
somxeTsa da azerbaijans Soris
ganaxlebuli konfliqti saqar-
Tvelos? _ am Temebis Sesaxeb
„qronika+”-s „erTiani saqarTve-
lo _ demokratiuli moZraobis”
generaluri mdivani, gigla
baramiZe esaubreba:
_ batono gigla, rodesac
„qarTuli ocneba” xelisufle-
baSi movida yvelas egona, rom
axalgazrdebs aRar daxocavd-
nen. Tavadac xSirad usvamdnen
xazs im garemoebas, rom Cvens
dros quCaSi aravis klaveno.
dRes es suraTi radikalurad
Secvlilia. ratom mivida saqme
aqamde?
_ dRes axalgazrdebs ara marto
quCaSi, aramed sakuTar saxlebSic
da saZinebelSic klaven.
giorgi SaqaraSvilis mkvlelobam
mTeli saqarTvelo SeZra. am sazarel
SemTxvevas ase Sevafasebdi
_ gamocxadebuli sikvdilis
qronika jigrul pontSi. qarTul
jigrul pontze TvalpaWuna premieri
gvesaubra. mis gancxadeba-
Si kargad ikveTeboda xelisuflebis
xedvebi yvela mimarTulebiT.
giorgi SaqaraSvilis aseTi
gametebac swored jigruli pontis
konteqstSi jdeba. sazogadoebis
udides nawils ar gvjera
im versiebis, rasac xelisufleba
gvTavazobs. viRacas SeiZleba ar
moewonos, rasac axla vityvi, magram
faqti jiutia _ media rom
ara, araferi gvecodineboda am
saqmeze. erTsac davamateb: am axalgazrdis
gadarCena SeiZleboda,
yvela rom Tavis adgilze
yofiliyo. am tragediam dRevandeli
sistemis mTeli TvalTmaqcoba
da farisevloba gamoavlina,
romelmac araferi gaakeTa imisTvis,
rom axalgazrda gadaerCina.
gvamunaTeben da wina xelisuflebisken
iSveren xels. medias,
opoziciasa da arasamTavroboebs
brals sdeben, _ SaqaraSvilis
mkvlelobas politikuri
miznebisTvis iyenebTo. arc ki vici,
rogor ganvasxvavo Zveli da
moqmedi xelisuflebebi erTmaneTisgan,
iseTi msgavsebaa maT Soris.
bevr rameSi „qarTulma ocnebam”
„nacionalebs” gadaaswro.
minda, mivmarTo „qarTuli ocnebis”
warmomadgenlebs: Tqve
farisevlebo, visze ambobT, rom
mkvlelobas politikuri miznebisTvis
iyeneben?! Tqven ar iyaviT
2012 wlis pirveli oqtombris
arCevnebis wina Rames, 9 Tvis bar-
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294 69 77; qronikaqronika@gmail.com
`gamocxadebuli sikvdilis
599 92 16 22 gigla baramiZe:
bare rafaliancis mkvleloba
politikuri miznebisTvis rom
gamoiyeneT? mTeli partia xafi
xmiT gahkiodoT amaze. ambavi
gurjaanSi moxda da zugdidis
maJoritarobis kandidati naxevar
saaTSi ranairad gaCnda iq,
romelic yvela gaTvlebiT zugdidSi
unda yofiliyo? eseni sxvas
ra namusiT eubnebian, rom mkvlelobas
politikuri miznebisTvis
iyenebTo?
aseve ar SemiZlia xazi ar gavusva
im faqts, Tu rogor ambrazurasaviT
aris gadafarebuli
mTeli sistema Ss saministros
pressamsaxuris ufross. gvasmenineben
raRac tyuilebs 112-Si vi-
Tom ganxorcielebul zarTan
dakavSirebiT. Ss ministris erTerTma
moadgilem brifingi Caatara
mxolod imisTvis, rom pressamsaxuris
ufrosi gamoeZvrina.
roca Jurnalistebma saqmeze
kiTxvebi dausves, brifingidan
gavarda, _ am saqmeSi Caxeduli
ara varo. Ss ministris moadgilem
nino giorgobianis gasaTeTreblad
patruls daamxo yvelaferi
Tavze.
_ ras gulisxmobT? raSi gam-
oixata, rom patruls Tavze
daamxo yvelaferi?
_ misi gancxadebiT patruls
araferi SeuZlia, arc operatiuli
saqmianobis Catareba, arc
raRac obieqtis moZebna... fexebze
kidiaT yvela instituti, oRond
konkretuli Cinovniki gamoaZvrinon.
erTi xazidan meore
xazze rom gadavide, patrulis 5
ekipaJi momadgeba da jarimas gamomiwers.
im Rames mcxeTaSi, centralur
gzaze, manqanebis Sligini
iyo, rkinis joxebiT darbodnen
axalgazrdebi. vkiTxulob:
sad iyo am dros mcxeTis policia?!
sad iyo patruli?! sistema
yars da absoluturad gaTaxsirebulia.
yvelam viciT, jigrul
pontSi ra gakeTdeboda _
darekavda giorgobiani, Cems
naTesavs uWirs da gamoarideTo.
gamoridebul naTesavs sxva
RonisZiebaze gauSvebda, xalxs
rame eWvi rom ar aeRo. iq am naTesavma
bevri foto gadaiRo da ar
viciT, ra saxis fotoebia gada-
Rebuli. samagierod viciT, rom
man gamoZieba moatyua _ cru
Cveneba misca.
Cveni samarTaldamcvelebi
arafers akeTeben saqmis gamosa-
Zieblad. siuJetebsa da scenarebs
weren imis mixedviT, Tu ra politikuri
situacia iqneba. mediisgan
ra mimarTulebas dainaxaven,
im mimarTulebiT iwyeben muSaobas,
maTi mopasuxe xdebian. aman
„xoravas quCis saqme” gamaxsena. 16
wlis biWi aCexes. skolis direqtori
gamovida da bavSvze ki ar
itira, Tavis marTlebaze gadavida,
_ mkvleloba skolis teritoriaze
ar momxdarao. aseT cnobiereba
dakargul Cinovnikebs
rom Caugdes saZarcvavad qveyana,
magitom gvaqvs saqme kargad. amitom
vambob, jigrul pontSi xdeba
yvelaferi.
_ qarTul jigrul pontSi
qveyanaSi yvelaze metad koruf-
cia ayvavda.
_ jigrul pontSi araa, rom
prezidentad matrona dagviniSnes?
yvela sxva sikeTesTan er-
Tad axla am qalma fexSiSvelma
daiwyo siaruli. romeli wminda
nino eg myavs an Tamar mefe? fex-
SiSvel siaruls urCevnia, Tavisi
gafuWebuli saqme gamoasworos.
_ ra saqme?
_ daviTgarejaSi misi gancxdebebis
gamo Seiqmna problema. Cvenma
saxelmwifom es problema unda
moagvaros. am saqmis ase datoveba
ar SeiZleba.
_ prezidentze vsaubrobT da
`ocnebaSi~
arsebuli klanebi
arCevnebisTvis
gamoyofil fuls
ver iyofen~
mis gancxadebaze ras ityviT, va-
Jkacoba rom erTi erTze Cxubi
hgonia? esec qarTuli jigruli
pontis gamovlinebaa?
_ provincielebi da goimebi
parizis gareubanSic ibadebian da
_ saqarTveloSic. imaze aRarafers
vambob, Tu rogor dagvisves
es qali prezidentad. Cven
gvyavs mTavarsardali, romlis
yovel gancxadebas momTargmneli
sWirdeba. rac Cxubze Tqva, uzneobaa!
ras niSnavs, erTi erTze
Cxubi vaJkacobaa?! erTi adamiani
meores Cxubis dros Tu moklavs,
es gamarTlebulia? adelfos
samisnoSi iyvnen midiebi, romlebic
bundovnad laparakobdnen,
magram ganmmarteblebi hyavdaT.
axla etyoba, egeTi Stati unda
davuSvaT prezidentis administraciaSi.
Cveni jibidan unda vuxadoT
xelfasi ganmmartebels,
raTa man gviTargmnos, Tu risi
`dRes axalgazrdebs ara marto quCaSi, aramed
sakuTar saxlebSic da saZinebelSic klaven.
giorgi SaqaraSvilis mkvlelobam mTeli
saqarTvelo SeZra. am sazarel SemTxvevas ase
Sevafasebdi - gamocxadebuli sikvdilis
qronika jigrul pontSi. qarTul jigrul
pontze TvalpaWuna premieri gvesaubra. mis
gancxadebaSi kargad ikveTeboda xelisuflebis
xedvebi yvela mimarTulebiT. giorgi
SaqaraSvilis aseTi gametebac swored jigruli
pontis konteqstSi jdeba~
Tqma surda misan salomeas. dadis
iqiT-aqeT, Tavisi WkuiT, saqar-
Tvelos siZveleebs gvaswavlis.
ase Tu giyvars, wadi da gelaTSi
rac xdeba, is gaaproteste. misma
damniSnavma xelisuflebam Tavisi
sisuleliT da situtuciT
mravalsaukunovani freskebi gamdinar
wyals Camoarecxina. mivmarTav
prezidents: gelaTis
freskebis Camorecxva gaaprotesteT
da da Wkuas nu gvaswavliT.
_ gelaTis mravalsaukunovani
freskebi rom Camoirecxa, cudia,
magram amis sapasuxod nebismieri
„qoci” ityvis, rom samagi-
erod biZinam dendrologiuri
parki mogviwyoo.
_ amaT didi xania, tvinSi aqvT
dendrologiuri parki. marTla
ra SegvWames am parkiT? gaixsna da
gaixsna! amaSi cuds verafers vxedav,
ubralod, erTis gakeTebiT
meore ar unda gafuWdes. eseni
arian aseTi kategoriis xalxi, _
unaxavma ra naxao. mdabioebis
klasteri, romelic aiRes da
dades xelisuflebaSi. axla yvelafers
akeTeben Zalauflebis
SesanarCuneblad. rame Tu xdeba,
wina xelisuflebisken iSveren
xels. yvelafers gvamadlian, rac,
pirvel rigSi, Cveni bralia.
_ Cveni brali ratom aris?
_ imitom, rom sazogadoeba
maT mimarT Zalian loialuria.
mxolod partiebs ar vgulisxmob,
sazogadoebac loialuria „qar-
Tuli ocnebis” mimarT da Sedegic
saxezea.
_ sazogadoeba aseTi loialuri
rom ar yofiliyo, ivaniS-
vili „ocnebis” saarCevno Stabs
ageresiiT gamorCeul kobaxiZes
ar Caabarebda.
_ „qarTuli ocnebis” arSemdgari
vunderkindi gveubneboda
opozocias, Tavebs dagiTvliTo.
biZinas adgilze magas saerTod
ar gamovaCendi. misi fsiqotipi
absoluturad dazianebulia. amas
sruli pasuxismgeblobiT vambob.
aseT adamianebs ar SeiZleba hqondeT
mdgomareoba. saqarTveloSi
msgavsi personebi adrec gvyolia
maRal postebze da kargad viciT,
risi gakeTeba SeuZliaT maT
_ rogorc ki Zalauflebas miscem,
saSinelebebs daatrialeben.
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