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`qarTuli ocneba~ samgle
albaT, mxolod saqarTveloSi
Sorena marsagiSvili
SeiZleba, prezidentma saxalxo dam-
599 92 16 22
cvels sTxovos daxmareba, _ mabul-
ingebeno. im prezidentma, romlis
gancxadebebi agvistos omTan dakavSirebiT qarTveli samxedroe-
bis winaaRmdeg micemuli Cvenebebia, romelsac ruseTi xSirad afrialebs.
bulingis msxverpli salome zurabiSvili mis mier ga-
keTebuli araadekvaturi gancxadebebis gamo gaxda. mas miaCnia,
rom is brwyinvale qarTuliT saubrobs da medias misi ena ar esmis.
zurabiSvilis godeba bulingTan dakavSirebiT sasacilod eCveneba
leiboristuli partiis wevr beJan naTelaSvils.
ra problemebs uqmnis qvey-
anas salome zurabiSvili? ra
arCevanis winaSe dadgeba ivaniSvili?
ratom ar adardebs am-
erikisa da evropis aRiarebul
„Salikos fanCaturs” kremlis
agentebis azri? razea wamsvleli
„qarTuli ocneba”? ris-
Tvis aris mzad opozicia? _ am
Temebis Sesaxeb „qronika+~-s
beJan naTelaSvili esaubreba:
_ batono beJan, prezidentis
administraciam saxalxo dam-
cvels mimarTa, rame iRoneT,
saqarTvelos prezidents abu-
lingebeno. gagigiaT, rom sadme
saxalxo damcveli prezidents
icavdes? an raSi gamoixateba
prezidentis
dabulingeba?
prezidentebs nebismier qveya-
naSi akritikeben, magram Svela
jer aravis uTxovia.
_ prezidenti aris konstituciis
garanti da is valdebulia,
daicvas yvela, vinc SeiZleba,
bulingis msxverpli gaxdes.
marto saxalxo damcvelisTvis
gagzavnili mimarTvidanac Cans,
Tu ra donis gaugebrobaSia es
qali moxvedrili. salome zurabiSvils
gaazrebulic ki ar
aqvs, Tu ras niSnavs iyo qveynis
prezidenti. is am Tanamdebobaze
im procesis Sedegad dasves,
romelsac arCevnebis garda yvelaferi
erqva. salome zurabiSvili
gaxlavT qveynis sircxvili.
amasTan, is aris mosiarule
naRmi, romelic nebismier
wams SeiZleba afeTqdes. kacma
ar icis, sad ras daabrexvebs.
Tavisi ugunuri gancxadebebiT
azerbaijanTan ukve Segviqmna
problemebi. ra unda vilaparako
im qalze, romelic 19 wlis
biWis mkvlelobaze ityvis, _
jgufuri Cxubi vaJkacoba araa,
erTi erTze rom eCxubaT, kidev
hoo. arada, samagaliTod unda
gmobdes Zaladobas. garda imisa,
rom prezidentia, is aris
Svilebis deda.
_ misgan gagikvirdaT es gancxadeba?
es xom is qalia, romelic
lobios saWmelad wavi-
da Ramis 11 saaTze maSin, roca
24
599 92 16 22 beJan naTelaSvili:
axalgazrdebi parlamentis win
yinvaSi aqcias marTavdnen? es
is qalia, romelic ambobs, rom,
ratomRac, xalxze maRla unda
idges.
_ ar gamkvirvebia. Tavxedi da
utifari adamianisgan yvelaferia
mosalodneli. vinmem ar
misayveduros, qalze ras ambobo.
ra SuaSia qali, Tanac sul
genderul Tanasworobazea saubari.
kidev gavimeoreb: es aris
Tavxedi da utifari qali, romelic
qveynisa da misi nebismieri
moqalaqisTvis safrTxis
Semcvelia. misi nebismieri gancxadeba
SeiZleba, did problemad
gadaiqces.
_ misi gancxadebebi safrTx-
is Semcveli namdvilad aris.
mis mier dawerili wignis
safuZvelze SesaZloa, qarTvel
samxedroebs osebis genoci-
dis mowyobaSi dasdon brali.
_ es wigni mas SemTxveviT ar
dauweria. arc agvistos omTan
dakavSirebiT aqvs gakeTebuli
is ugunuri gancxadebebi SemTxveviT.
mogexsenebaT, rom mTeli
Cveni xelisufleba „efesbes”
filialia, romelic piradad
putins eqvemdebareba. am filialis
saboloo mozania saqarTvelos
dabruneba ruseTis wiaR-
Si. sxvanairad am xelisuflebis
qmedebebs ver avxsni. osebi
da okupantebi ukve wlebia,
Cvens moqalaqeebs saqarTvelos
kontrolirebadi teritoriidan
itaceben. amasTan dakav-
SirebiT „qarTuli ocnebisgan”
erTi xeiriani protestic ki ar
mogvismenia. isev Cveni dasavleli
partniorebi aprotesteben.
eseni ki rusianoba-osianobas
gagebiT ekidebian.
_ gia volski gatacebebze
aseT rames ambobs, _ okupacia
sxva ki araferia: zogs gaita-
ceben, zogs daWriano.
_ volski is pirovnebaa,
romelic salome zurabiSvils
arafriT Camouvardeba, masac
sakmaod maRali Tanamdeboba
ukavia da parlamentis vicespikeri
gaxalvT. es personac
`amaze Zalian mecineba. amaT isic ki ar ician,
rom swored fanCaturebSi keTdeba didi
saqmeebi. saqarTveloSi odiTgan ase iyo.
gveZaxon "Salikos fanCaturi" da iyvnen. iq
jdomas marTlac araferi sjobs, iseTi kargi
ezoa. "ocnebis" Sefasebebi ar mainteresebs.
radgan am fanCaturs dasavleTi uwevs
angariSs. kremli Tu ar gvaRiarebs, amaze
piriqiT, madlobas vityviT~
Zalian samarcxvino gancxadebebs
akeTebs. is kidev ra saSineli
hyavT „ocnebaSi”, Tmakulula
biWi rom aris. mas me kobaxisTavianiZe
Sevarqvi. xisTaviani
rom ar iyos, iseT rameebs ar
ityoda, rasac eg ambobs. dRes
saqarTvelo denTis kasrze zis.
es im xalxis damsaxurebaa, romelic
marTavs qveyanas. saxelmwifo
CamoSales, biujeti gamoxres,
ekonomika minusebSi gadaiyvanes.
_ ekonomikis minusebSi gada-
yvanas koronapandemiiT xsnian.
_ korona sad iyo, amaT
ekonomika minusebSi rom gadaiyvanes.
Tan axla xom gadaiara
am koronam da rame moimoqme-
`salome
zurabiSvili
mosiarule
naRmia~
don. mTelma msofliom moxsna
SezRudvebi. mxolod saqarTvelo
iyo, romelmac sazogadoebrivi
transportiT gadaadgileba
akrZala. araerTxel miTqvams
da gavimeoreb, rom korona
amaT tuziviT daeca da ra
gasakviria, rom sakuTar Tavze
moirgebndnen. Cveni informaciiT,
cota xanSi isev apireben koronas
axali talRis agorebas
da am Temis saTavisod gamoyenebas.
_ ras niSnavs koronas axali
talRis agoreba?
_ rogorc ki dasavleTidan
kritikuli werili mova, meore
dResve vigebT, rom koronainficirebulTa
ricxvi izrdeba.
`prezidenti aris konstituciis garanti da is
valdebulia, daicvas yvela, vinc SeiZleba,
bulingis msxverpli gaxdes. marto saxalxo
damcvelisTvis gagzavnili mimarTvidanac Cans, Tu
ra donis gaugebrobaSia es qali moxvedrili.
salome zurabiSvils gaazrebulic ki ar aqvs, Tu
ras niSnavs iyo qveynis prezidenti. is am
Tanamdebobaze im procesis Sedegad dasves,
romelsac arCevnebis garda yvelaferi erqva~
aseTi triuki ramdenjerme Caatares
_ es aris imis winapiroba,
rom amaT saarCevnod SeiZleba
Zalian didi SezRudvebi daaweson
da gareTac ki ar gamogviSvan.
_ xalxi Tu gadairia, aranai-
ri SezRudva aRar gaaCerebs
mas.
_ xalxs marTla saSineleba
gamoatares da amas meored veRar
gadaitanen. mTeli sami Tve
saxlSi hyavdaT mosaxleoba gamoketili.
maTi mowodeba aseTi
iyo: darCiT saxlSi da mokvdiT
SimSiliT! aseTi ram rom aRar
ganmeordes, xelisuflebaSi
„qarTuli ocnebis” umravlesobiT
mosvla aRar unda davuSvaT.
umravlesobiT isedac ver
movlen, aseT Sedegs veRar dadeben,
sul rom yiraze gaiaron.
_ ratom ggoniaT, rom aseT
Sedegs ver dadeben?
_ amas xalxi aRar moiTmens.
2018 wlis saprezidento arCevnebze
rac gaakeTes, am arCevnebze
amis naxevaric rom ikadron,
Tavze daemxobaT yvelaferi.
gayalbebul arCevnebs aravin
aRar cnobs. aRsaniSnavia,
rom swored salome zurabiSvilis
arCevnebis Semdeg gaocda
amerika da wamovida iqidan werili
werilze, ustari ustarze
da a. S. vaSingtoni Riad mianiSnebs,
rom is aRar gaatarebs
iseT utifrobas, rac „qarTulma
ocnebam” 2018 wels ikadra.
_ erTia, ras ambobs amerika
da meorea, ras gegmavs xelisufleba.
Tqveni azriT, dasavleTidan
mosuli gafrTxilebebis
Semdeg ikadrebs xelisufleba
utifrobas am arCe-
vnebze?
_ ras ar ikadrebs? ramdenime
Tvis win pirdapir molaparakebebis
magididan agvacales
gigi ugulava. manamde sul tyuilad
daiWires irakli oqruaSvili.
ris gamoc is daiWires, nebismieri
Cvengani unda aRmoCeniliyo
gisosebs miRma. Cven er-
Tad vaprotestebdiT gavrilovis
TbilisSi Camosvlas. poli-
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