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da uamravi pasuxgaucemeli kiTxvaa 19 wlis giorgi SaqaraSvi-
lis savaraudo mkvlelobis saqmeze. is 4-dRiani Ziebis Semdeg
22 ivniss mdinare aragvSi gardacvlili ipoves. prokuratur-
is informaciiT, SaqaraSvilis dakargvas win uZRoda or jgufs
Soris dapirispireba. am droisTvis Cxubis epizodze 17 piria
dakavebuli. maT winaswari patimroba SeefardaT. garda amisa,
gamoZiebas daemata axali muxli damamZimebel garemoebebSi
jgufurad ganxorcielebuli ganzrax mkvleloba, Tumca bra-
li am muxliT jer aravis wayenebia.
ra mtkicebulebebi arsebobs
„SaqaraSvilis saqmeSi”? gaxda Tu
ara gamoZieba sazogadoebis emo-
ciuri „dakveTis” Semsrulebeli?
ramdenad realuria moragbeebis
mimarT bralis damZimeba?
aRniSnuli Temebis Sesaxeb
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vasil mamulaSvils esaubra:
_ batono vasil, rogor moxv-
da piradi cxovrebis amsaxveli
kadrebi TqvenTan da iyo Tu ara
es faqti gamoZiebis konkretuli
gzavnili?
_ Cven 6 ivliss warvadgineT
moTxovna da im momentisTvis yvela
SesaZlo mtkicebulebis gadmocema
moviTxoveT. vinaidan es informacia
moculobiTi iyo, Cvens
kompiuterSi braldebis mxaris
SesaZlo mtkicebulebebi 07 ivliss
Cagviweres. meore dRes, 08 ivliss,
rodesac daviwyeT informaciis
gacnoba, maSinve SevamCnieT, rom
gadmocemuli informaciis nawili
warmoadgenda piradi cxovrebis
saidumloebas, ris Semdgomac,
daaxloebiT, 23:00 saaTze CavediT
mcxeTis policiis departamentSi
da moviTxoveT Cvens kompiuterSi
am kadrebis ganadgureba, radgan
ssk 157-e prima muxli iTvaliswinebs
valdebulebas: Tu aseTi
kadrebi vinmes xelSi aRmoCndeba,
valdebulia ganacxados policia-
Si. cxadia, Cven es davicaviT. iyo
dava imaze, rom maT am pasuxismgeblobis
aReba ar surdaT. iyo SemoTavazeba,
rom SeTanxmebis safu-
Zvelze oqmiT gagveformebina. me
vTxovdi aRiarebas, rom es maTi
braleulobiT moxda, razedac
uari gviTxres, ris Semdegac warvadgine
gancxadeba, rom es mtkicebulebebi
ganadgurebuliyo. meore
dRes ki daiwyo aRniSnul faqtze
sisxlis samarTlis 157-e muxliT
gamoZieba. gamovikiTxeT mowmis saxiT
_ policielebis mxridan am kadrebis
SesaZlo Senaxvasa da gavrcelebasTan
dakavSirebiT. CavabareT
kompiuteri mtkicebulebis
ganadgurebis mizniT da albaT
Tbilisis prokuratura Sesabamisad
ireagirebs. es Canaweri exeboda
erT-erTi monawile piris megobar
gogos, romelic saerTod SemxeblobaSi
ar aris saqmesTan. es informacia
Cven gavigeT policielebisgan.
vfiqrob, rom am SemTxveva-
Si saqme gvaqvs araprofesionalizmTan
da arakompetenturobas-
Tan. ar gamovricxav imasac, rom
policielebs es kadrebi arc unaxavT,
ise gadmogvces an SeiZleba
naxes da miiCnies, rom vinaidan
eqspertizam es waSlili failebi
mobiluridan amoiRo, es iyo saqmis
Semadgeneli nawili da am masalis
gadmoucemloba piriqiT _ maT
problemas Seuqmnida. faqtia, rom
piradi cxovrebis amsaxveli kadrebis
(romelic saqmesTan ar aris
kavSirSi) Senaxva aucileblobas ar
warmoadgens da aucileblad unda
ganadgurdes.
_ ra Semxebloba aqvT Tqveni
dacvis qveS myofebs am saqmesTan?
_ maT aranairi Semxebloba ar
gaaCniaT momxdarTan. konfliqti
moxda da es adamianebi mividnen am
sakiTxis gasarkvevad. ra moiazreba
garkvevaSi, es SefasebiTia. gar-
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kveuli danaSaulebebi dasjadia
danaSaulis momzadebis procesSi.
magaliTad, dekanoz giorgi mamalaZes
edavebodnen danaSaulis
momzadebas; aris danaSaulebi, romelic
dasjadia mcdelobidanve.
magaliTad, pirma yvelaferi gaake-
Ta danaSaulis Casadenad, magram
Sedegi ar dadga misgan damoukidebeli
mizezebis gamo. am SemTxveva-
Si, davuSvaT, am adamianebs hqondaT
maTi cemis mcdeloba. Zaladobas
ar SeiZleba, mcdeloba hqondes,
Zaladoba materialuri saxis danaSaulia
da ara _ formaluri, anu
Sedegs aqvs aseT SemTxvevaSi mniSvneloba.
rogorc vici, Cemi dacvis
qveS myofebs am pirebis cemis ganzraxvac
ki ar hqoniaT. amaze ki
pasuxs gvcems amirxanaSvilis mimarT
ganxorcielebuli qceva. maT
ar miuyenebiaT dazianeba amirxanaSvilisTvis,
Tumca Tu cemis ganzraxvas
miviCnevT, es samarTlebrivad
ar aris danaSauli. me vicav im
pirebs, romlebsac Tavisuflebis
aRkveTas edavebian, rom maT amirxanaSvils
aRukveTes Tavisufleba.
Tavad amirxanaSvili ambobs, rom
misTvis Tavisufleba ar aRukveTiaT
da rom TbilisSi wamoiyvanes. is
yovelgvari Zaladobis gareSe Camoiyvanes
TbilisSi. erTi mtkicebulebac
ar arsebobs, rom vinmes
Tavisufleba aRukveTes. aseTi
braldeba amirxanaSvilma romc
Tqvas, am adamianebma Tavisufleba
aRmikveToso, kanonis Tanaxmad ganaCeni
efuZneba erTmaneTTan SeTanxmebul
aSkara da damajerebel
mtkicebulebaTa erTobliobas,
anu minimum ori mtkicebuleba unda
iyos, romelic erTmaneTTan Se-
Tanxmebuli iqneba. rogorc amirxanaSvilis
Cvenebaa mtkicebuleba,
aseve braldebuli 6 piris Cvenebac
mtkicebulebaa. davuSvaT, 6 adamiani
ambobs, rom maT Tavisufleba
ar aRukveTiaT, amirxanaSvilic
igives ambobs, aseT SemTxvevaSi nebismieri
mosamarTle da Tundac
ara iuristi adamianic gamamarTlebel
ganaCens gamoitans. ganvixiloT
meore varianti: 6 adamiani
ambobs, rom danaSauli ar Caudenia,
amirxanaSvili ki ambobs, rom
Caidines. es ar iqneba sakmarisi,
radgan mxolod erTi dazaralebulis
Cveneba ar kmara. magaliTad,
axla me rom davreko policiaSi da
Tqvenze ganvacxado, rom damemuqreT,
amis safuZvelze rom dagakavon,
es xom ar iqneba sakmarisi?
amitomac aris damatebiTi mtkicebulebebi
saWiro. ase rom,
amirxanaSvili ras ityvis, amas mniSvneloba
aRar aqvs, radgan ukve
ganvmarteT, rom misi Cveneba 75-e
muxlis Tanaxmad dauSvebeli mtkicebulebaa.
gasagebia, gamoZiebis
procesi rTulia. yvela saqmeze
suraTis aRdgena srulad ver moxdeba
Tu ar gvaqvs videoCanawerebi.
Tu videoCanawerebi ar gvaqvs,
fazlis awyobis msgavsad nel-nela
unda SevavsoT carieli adgilebi,
magram xSir SemTxvevaSi mniSvnelovani
detali ar gagvaCnia. am konkretul
saqmeze raRac suraTi aRadgines,
magram obieqturi WeSmaritebis
aRdgena ver moaxerxes. es
SeiZleba gamoZiebis bralic ar iyos
da am saqmeSi warmatebuli qveynebis
gamomZieblebic rom Cavr-
ToT, imaTac ver gamoiZion. bevri
`17 piris dakaveba
saqmea gamouZiebeli, maT Soris,
germaniasa da amerikis SeerTebul
StatebSi. xSirad saqme isea Sesrulebuli,
mtkicebulebebi ganadgurebuli,
rom sruli suraTis
aRdgena SeuZlebelia, magram am
saqmeze Cven vnaxeT araprofesionalizmi,
romelic Sinagan saqmeTa
ministris moadgilem gaamarTla,
rom kameris Canawerebi ki ar wagviSlia,
waiSalao. aseve mowmis daki-
Txvis procesi winaswar unda daigegmoos,
damatebiTi gamokiTxva
ki damatebiTi garemoebebis warmoSobis
SemTxvevaSi xdeba. amaTma
dakiTxes mowmeebi, Semdeg raRac
gaaxsendaT, daibares da igive SekiTxvebi
dausves, mowmeebma igive
kiTxvas mizanmimarTulad Tu gaucnobiereblad
sxvagvari pasuxebi
gasces, _ es araprofesionalizmia.
_ garda imisa, rom am SemTxvevaSi
araprofesionalizmi vlindeba,
gaqvT Tu ara eWvi gamoZiebis
mxridan mowmeze zewolis ganx-
orcielebaze?
_ magaliTad, arasrulwlovan
z.x.-s SemTxvevaSi maqvs gancda, rom
mis mimarT ganxorcielda zewola,
radgan mis CvenebaSi iseTi informaciebia
Setanili, romelic fizikurad
ver iqneboda mowmis mier
vasil mamulaSvili:
`SaqaraSvilis
saqmeSi~
SesaZloa,
realuri
damnaSaveebi
gaqrnen~
miwodebuli. magaliTad, erT-erTi
mowme ambobs, sacemrad mivsdevdiT,
ver davewieT, magram vicodiT, sad
imalebodnen, Semdeg wamovediTo.
logikurad warmovidginoT, adamians
sacemrad misdevdnen, icodnen,
sadac iyvnen da dazianebas ar miayenebdnen?!
_ es araswori informaciaa.
aravin icoda, vin sad imaleboda.
vinc naxes, es iyo amirxanaSvili,
romelic Tavisi nebiT wamoiyvanes
TbilisSi. amirxanaSvilze
ki imitom ar iZalades, rom incidentis
monawile ar iyoo. Tu amirxanaSvili
am motiviT ar scemes,
maSin SaqaraSvilic ar iyo incidentis
monawile da logikurad, arc
mas scemdnen. dadgenilia, rom SaqaraSvils
amirxanaSvilis msgavsad
aravisTvis dazianeba ar miuyenebia.
anu amirxanaSvili daindes da SaqaraSvili
mosaklavad gaimetes?! _
es xom alogikuria.
_ dReis mdgomareobiT, ra xelSesaxebi
mtkicebulebebi arse-
bobs saqmeSi?
_ faqtia, rom dReis mdgomareobiT
aranairi xelSesaxebi mtkicebulebebi
ar gvaqvs imis saTqmelad,
rom saxezea mkvleloba. saubrobdnen
imaze, rom eqspertizis daskvniT
dadginda: SaqaraSvili aris na-
`am saqmeSi 5 piria, romelic SeiZleba flobdes
gamoZiebisTvis mniSvnelovan informacias. eseni
arian: amirxanaSvili, axvlediani, qaTamaZe,
RibraZe, bregvaZe. arc erTi am piris mier
mowodebuli informaciiT ar dgindeba, rom
`toita qamriSi~ myof pirebs komunikacia
hqondaT SaqaraSvilTan. Sesabamisad, Tu
Semxeblobas es 5 mowme ar gvidasturebs, aravin
icis, SaqaraSvils vinme Sexvda Tu ara~
cemi, wyalSi damxrCvali da a. S. es
msjelobebi aris ufro samoqalaqo
doneze arsebuli versiebi,
romelsac saerTo araferi aqvs
saqmesTan.
_ ratom?
_ Cven eqspertizis daskvniT
gavigeT, rom giorgi SaqaraSvilis
gardacvalebis mizezi aris asfiqsia
wyalSi daxrCobT. daskvnaSi
weria, rom aw gardacvlils hqonda
msubuqi saxis mravlobiTi dazianeba,
romelic sicocxlisdroindelia
da SeiZleboda drois
mokle periodSi ganviTarebuliyo.
aseve mas aqvs gardacvalebis Semdeg
miyenebuli dazianebebi. gamo-
Ziebis versia ar aris, rom gardacvlili
nacemia, amaze sazogadoebis
nawili saubrobs. cema, mkvleloba,
Zaladoba _ es aris samarTlebrivi
terminebi, romlebic
eqspertizis daskvnaSi arc am da
arc sxva saqmeze ver Caiwereba,
rom, magaliTad, piri moklulia an
nacemia. eqspertiziT iwereba, rom
piri gardacvlilia da ara moklulia,
aseve iwereba, rom pirs
aqvs dazianebebi da ara is, rom piri
nacemia. realurad, samarTlebrivi
terminebi eqspertizis saqme
ar aris. dazianebebi pirebma cemis
Sedegad miayenes Tu ara, amis dadgenas
sxva saxis kompleqsuri eqspertiza
sWirdeba, romelic CaniSnulia
da dasmulia kiTxva: riT Sei-
Zleba ganviTarebuliyo, konkretulad,
im saxis dazianebebi, romelic
gardacvlils aqvs miyenebuli?
sasamarTlo-samedicino eqspertizaSi
weria, rom SesaZlebelia, es
dazianebebi ganviTarebuliyo
mkvrivi blagvi sagnis zemoqmedebis
Sedegad, Tumca es ar gvaZlevs
imis Tqmis saSualebas, rom gar-
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