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`SaqaraSvilis saqmis~ gamouZiebloba~
Zaladoba aris miuRebeli,
araqarTuli”, _ ramdenad ade-
kvaturia prezidenti zurabiS-
vili Tavis gancxadebaSi?
_ mimaCnia, rom qalbaton
prezidents, isev da isev, qar-
Tul enaze verbalizaciis problema
aqvs da mis gancxadeba-
Si araviTari kriminaluri samyaros
mxardaWera ar ikveTeboda.
samwuxaroa, rom amdeni xnis
ganmavlobaSi prezidenti ar
cdilobs, sakuTar Tavze imuSaos,
rom sworad gamoTqvas
sakuTari naazrevi. es aris upativcemuloba
misi moqalaqeebis
mimarT.
_ xelisuflebis warmomadgenlebi
acxadeben, rom opoz-
iciuri speqtri SaqaraSvilis
tragedias politikuri miznebisTvis
iyenebs. ras upasux-
ebT maT am Sefasebas?
_ samwuxaroa: saqarTveloSi,
rodesac seriozul sakiTxebze
undaT msjeloba, maSinve politikuri
Sefasebebis demonizacias
uwyoben xels, sinamdvile-
Si ki Tu seriozulad gvinda
konkretul sakiTxze msjeloba,
zustadac politikurad unda
vimsjeloT da es umniSvnelovanesia.
ar SeiZleba, politika
da politikuri Sefasebebi
saSinelebad miiCneodes.
xSirad swored politikuri Sefasebebia
veqtoris ganmsazRvreli.
mTeli dasavleTi da Tanamedrove
samayaro amaze dgas.
ra Tqma unda, xelisufleba
cdilobs, politikuri Sefasebebis
iarliyiT dafaros saku-
Tari umoqmedoba da isrebi
opoziciaze gadmoitanos, Tumca
politikosebi opoziciaSi
imitom arseboben, rom movlena
saTanadod Seafason da politikuri
gamosavali dainaxon;
xolo xelisufleba imisTvis
arsebobs, rom es politikuri
gadawyvetileba miiRos. Tu politikaSi
xar, es martivad gasagebia.
xelisufleba ki cdilobs
damangreveli poziciebiT
Zalauflebis xelSi dakavebas.
_ ukve Tveebia grZeldeba
aSS-is kongresmenebisa da sen-
atorebis kritika mmarTveli
gundis misamarTiT. metic: 13
kongresmenis werilSi biZina
ivaniSvili Riad aris moxse-
niebuli, rogorc putinis
kaci. rogor aisaxeba es yve-
laferi 2020 wlis arCevnebze?
_ am Sefasebebis mizania
saqarTveloSi demokratiuli
procesebis sworad da adekvaturad
warmarTva, raTa ar
daziandes qveynis demokratiuli
ganviTareba. werilebis pasuxad
„ocnebis” xelisufleba
amerikel kongresmenebs politikuri
interesebiT motivirebulebs
uwodebs; rom opozicias
lobistebi hyavs daqiravebuli.
lobizmi kanonieri da
legaluri saqmianobaa. SeuZliaT,
TviTonac daiqiravon lobistebi,
hyavT kidec daqirave-
`xoravas saqmezec~ adamianebi cixeSi sxedan; Tavis droze, `girgvlianis
saqmezec~ Casves viRacebi cixeSi... magram faqtia: gadawyvetileba usamarTlo
iyo da sakiTxebi saTanadod ar Seiswavles - visac ra simZimiTac ekuTvnoda
samarTlis Tanaxmad pasuxismgebloba, Sesabamisad da adekvaturad ar
daisajnen. im adamianebs, romlebic cdilobdnen gamoZiebisTvis xelis
SeSlas da mkvlelebze xelis dafarebas an danaSaulis Semsubuqebas, wlebis
Semdeg mouwiaT am saqmeebze cixeSi Cajdoma (magaliTad, `girgvlianis
saqmeze~ Sinagan saqmeTa yofili ministri vano merabiSvili)~
buli, gacilebiT mets ixdian,
magram, samwuxarod, „qarTuli
ocneba” imdenad cudad muSaobs,
rom lobistebic ki verafers
xdebian maTi interesebis
dasacavad. demokratiuli
ganviTareba, rogorc Rirebuleba,
msoflioSi umniSvnelovanesia
da isinic swored amas
uWeren mxars. demokratiuli
`sazogadoebas Zala aqvs da SeuZlia aiZulos
xelisufleba, rom adekvaturi
gadawyvetilebebi miiRos. `xoravas saqme~ amis
magaliTia, - rom ara sazogadoebrivi
protesti, zaza saraliZe ver miaRwevda imas,
rasac miaRwia, magram jer kidev ar
dasrulebula es saqme da ar viciT, ra
Sedegs vixilavT. amitom sazogadoeba
xelisuflebis mTavari makontrolebelia da
sazogadoeba aris xelisuflebis wyaro. Tu es
xelisufleba ar gamoiCens gonierebas da ver
mixvdeba, rom misi Zalaufleba xalxze dgas
da ara - biZina ivaniSvilze, ra Tqma unda,
cudad daamTavrebs da iseTi Sedegi dadgeba,
rogoric - girgvlianis SemTxvevaSi. mere
yvela agebs pasuxs!~
ganviTareba saqarTveloSi ni-
Snavs xelisuflebis Secvlas
arCevnebis gziT da xelisufleba
ar unda Zaladobdes sazogadoebriv
azrze. rac Seexeba
ivaniSvilis putinis kacad moxseniebas,
es, garkveulwilad,
signalia. is, rom anakliis portis
mSenebloba SeCerda, axla
ukve Rrmawylovani portis Temebze
gaurkveveli da bundovani
viTarebaa an sakanonmdeblo
doneze saqarTvelos parlamenti
iRebs araadekvatur
gadawyvetilebebs, romelic
gulisxmobs mediaSi droebiTi
mmarTvelis Seyvanas, es niSnavs,
rom biZina ivaniSvils xelisuflebis
mitaceba unda putiniviT.
es ki mizezs aZlevs dasavleTs,
rom putinis kvali dainaxos
biZina ivaniSvilis saqmianobaSi.
_ rogor fiqrobT, es mizanmimarTuli
politikaa rusu-
li interesebis gasatare-
blad?
_ am SemTxvevaSi mTavari
isaa, Tu vis sasargeblod dgeba
Sedegi. Sedegi ki calsaxad
ruseTis sasargeblod dgeba.
ruseTi marTla imas ki ar fiqrobs,
rom tankebiT Semova saqarTveloSi,
misi mizania aracivilizebuli,
gaWirvebuli
saxelmwifos xilva, sadac dasavluri
samyaro, amerikis SeerTebuli
Statebi, Tavis interesebs
ver gaatarebs. aqedan
gamomdinare, Sedegis TvalsazrisiT,
yvelaze cudi Sedegi
iqneba saqarTvelos moqalaqeebisTvis.
_ garda imisa, rom dasavle-
Ti xelisuflebas akritikebs,
opozicias ra berketebi gaqvT
„qarTuli ocnebis” dasamarcxeblad,
maSin, roca xelisufleba
administraciul da fi-
nansur resursebs flobs?
_ pirveli rigSi, Zalian
gvWirdeba saerTaSoriso damkvirveblebis
seriozuli warmomadgenloba,
aseve adgilobrivi
arasamTavrobo seqtori, politikuri
partiebisa da mediis
yuradReba, rom arCevnebis
dRes xelisuflebam arCevnebi
ver gaayalbos.
_ neitraluri amomrCevlis
sakmaod didi raodenobaa. mas
ra alternativa aqvs?
_ is sakonstitucio cvlilebebi,
rac saerTaSoriso da
sazogadoebrivi zewolis Sedegad
ganxorcielda, ar aris
srulad proporciuli, magram
aris 120/30-ze, raTa saqarTvelos
moqalaqes arCevanis meti
Sansi hqondes, rac adekvaturad
aisaxeba saparlamento Semadgenlobaze.
ufro didi
Sroma gvWirdeba winasaarCevno
periodSi, rom adamianebi arCevnebze
movidnen da irwmunon,
_ maTTvis sasurveli kandidatis
Semoxazva ukve niSnavs did
Sanss, rom misi warmomadgeneli
aucileblad moxvdeba parlamentSi.
_ „qarTuli ocnebis” saarCevno
Stabis ufrosad irak-
li kobaxiZe dainiSna. rogor
SeafasebT mmarTveli gundis
am gzavnils?
_ mmarTveli gundi agresiul
da Tavxedur kampanias Caatarebs,
radgan „qarTuli ocnebis”
saarCevno Stabis ufrosad
daniSnuli irakli kobaxiZe
Tavad aris Tavxedi adamiani.
_ ra formiT CaerTvebiT
respublikuri partia 2020
wlis saparlamento arCevneb-
Si?
_ partiebTan molaparakebebs
vawarmoebT. dRevandeli
saarCevno sistema namdvilad
iZleva imis SesaZleblobas,
rom damoukideblad an koaliciurad
gavideT romelime partiasTan
erTad. jerjerobiT
ar gadagviwyvetia. aucileblad
SegatyobinebT.
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