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saSineli realobis winaSe aRmoCndeba!~
ufleba yvelas aqvs, magram, qalbatono
lia, Tqven, rogorc ad-
vokati, am saqmeSi braldebulebs
daicavdiT?
_ roca icav, sxva pozicia
gaqvs. saerTod, am SemTxvevaSi ise
ki ar vsaubrob, rogorc advokati
an saqmeSi romelime subieqtis
mxare, aramed vsaubrob rogorc
rigiTi moqalaqe, romelsac Cemi
codnisa da gamocdilebidan gamomdinare,
am sferoSi cota meti
gamegeba. sxvaTa Soris, irma Wkaduas
Zalian kargad vicnob, igi
kvalificiuri advokatia, magram
imis Tqma, gamoZiebam ar hkiTxa da
amitom fotografma ar Tqva,
TbilisSi Camosvlis mere sad wavidao,
ar SeiZleba. bolos da bolos,
mas Semdeg, rac fotoaparati
amoiRes, sadac im Rames gada-
Rebuli asi Tu aTasobiT foto
aRmoCnda, gamoZiebas maSin xom
mainc unda ekiTxa, es fotoebi
sad da rodis gadaiReo? ise,
kiTxvac ar unda, radgan fotoaparati
TviTon afiqsirebs, foto
rodisaa gadaRebuli.
rac Seexeba Tqvens kiTxvas, me
yvelas davicavdi, radgan roca
advokati saqmes xels hkidebs,
unda daicvas. marTalia, sazareli
danaSaulia, magram advokatis
funqcia swored isaa, rom faqtebi
zustad daadginos da gamokveTos,
misi klienti konkretulad
rameSi damnaSave aris Tu ara,
radgan iseTi mZime danaSauli ar
dabraldes, romelic ar Caudenia.
ise, imis Tqmac, rom „qamris”
eqvsive mgzavrma pasuxi Tanabrad
unda agos da eqvsivem Tanabari
sasjeli unda miiRos, Zalian arakvalificiuria.
_ ratom?
_ am eqvsidan giorgis Sesa-
Zloa, eqvsive arc gadevnebia da
arc ucemia, anu am epizodSi eqvsive
Tanabrad ver miiRebda
monawileobas.
_ danaSaulidan erTi Tve
gavida da rogorc irma Wkaduam
erT-erT eTerSi ganacxada, sag-
amoZiebo eqsperimenti SesaZloa,
axla Catardes. amas azri aqvs an,
saerTod, gaxsendebaT SemTxveva,
roca gamoZiebas saproceso mo-
qmedebebi erTi Tvis dagvianebiT
daewyos?
_ mkvlelobis kuTxiT sagamo-
Ziebo moqmedebebis Catareba axla
ki ara, maSinac ki, roca daiwyo,
Zalian dagvianebuli iyo. gamo-
Ziebas mkvlelobis samuSao versia
maSinve unda hqonoda, sanam
gvams aRmoaCendnen. ratom eWvi
aravis hqonda, rom es axalgazrda
SesaZloa, gardacvlili yo-
`tragediidan erTi Tvis Semdegac, gamoZiebas
konkretuli pasuxi ar aqvs kiTxvaze, - vin
misdevda SaqaraSvils? vin scema? dazianebebi
vin miayena da wyalSi vin gadaagdo? Tu aseT
mniSvnelovan kiTxvebze pasuxebi ar arsebobs,
maSin romel gamoZiebaze vsaubrobT?~
filiyo? ise, Tu ramdenime adamiani
erTad garboda da mere sxvadasxva
adgilas daimala, ar vfiqrob,
rom erTmaneTis xma ar esmodaT,
anu Tu giorgi SaqaraSvils
ase gametebiT scemdnen, ver
warmomidgenia, rom romelimes
xma ar gaego an is teritoria ise
ratom datoves, rom erTmaneTi
ar moikiTxes? sxvaTa Soris,
imanac gamaoca, rom narekvavidan
wveulebam Temqaze gadainacvla
da gaTenebamde grZeldeboda,
arada, am dros TiTqmis yvelam
icoda, rom erTi axalgazrda
daikarga, minimum, ar Canda.
_ giorgis telefoni ar hqon-
da da axalgazrdebs, rogorc
Tavad amboben, imedi hqondaT,
rom is saxlSi mividoda, anu fe-
xburTels ver ukavSirdebodnen.
_ mesmis, magram ar mesmis,
rogor SeiZleba, roca erTi adamianis
mdgomareoba saeWvoa, mxiaruleba
gaagrZelo? es CemTvis
adamianurad Zalian gaugebari da
ucxoa. ase mgonia, rom amas sxva
planetelebi akeTeben.
_ saerTod, am saqmeSi bevri
ucnauri detalia. ai, magaliTad,
cxedari oTxi dRe wyalSi iyo,
Tumca roca ipoves, perangze
Rilebi Sekruli hqonda da es
`giorgi SaqaraSvilis tragedia gardamtexi
iyo, romliTac sazogadoebam dainaxa, rom
aseTi tragedia, SesaZloa, yvelas Tavze
datrialdes, magram damnaSave dausjeli
darCes! yovel SemTxvevaSi, gamoZiebam,
minimum, upasuxo kiTxvebi datovos~
maSin, roca arc fexsacmeli
ecva da arc _ windebi...
_ diax, es Zalian gasaocaria,
Tan cxedari im adgilas ipoves,
sadac Rrma wyali ar iyo, anu ar
amotivtivebula. televiziiT
yvelani vxedavdiT, rom maSvelebi
lamis welamde siRrmis wyal-
Si eZebdnen da amdeni xani ratom
eZebdnen?
mokled, yvelaferi es Zalian
saeWvod gamoiyureba.
_ qalbatono lia, Tqveni dakvirvebiT,
SaqaraSvilis tragediis
Semdeg sazogadoebaSi usa-
marTlobisa da daucvelobis
gancda gaizarda da aqve gkiTx-
avT, yvelaferi es, saboloo
jamSi, politikur saxes miiRebs
Tu ise daviviwyebT, rogorc,
vTqvaT, luka siraZis tragedia
dagvaviwyda?
_ raodenoba xarisxSi gadadis
xolme.
_ anu?
_ giorgi SaqaraSvilis tragedia
gardamtexi iyo, romliTac
sazogadoebam dainaxa, rom aseTi
tragedia, SesaZloa, yvelas Tavze
datrialdes, magram damnaSave
dausjeli darCes! yovel SemTxvevaSi,
gamoZiebam, minimum, upasuxo
kiTxvebi datovos. saerTod,
ori aTeuli welia, uflebadamcvelebi
am Temaze vsaubrobT
da ar vukadrisobT, rom sazogadoebas
mudmivad gavaxsenoT, magram
amis miuxedavad, mosaxleobas
ar hqonda gancda, ai, yvelani
daucvelebi varTo. SaqaraSvilis
saqmem ki bevrisTvis TvalsaCino
gaxada, rom aseTi ubedureba,
SesaZloa, yvelas daemar-
Tos, anu arakvalificiuri gamo-
Ziebis pirispir SesaZloa, nebismieri
aRmoCndes da Tu media ar
iaqtiurebs, yvelaferi mifuCeCdeba.
_ qalbatono lia, weRan fo-
tografi vaxseneT da miTxariT,
Tqveni azriT, iakob bregvaZe
dazaralebuli ratomaa da aqve
gkiTxavT: misma naTesavma, nino
giorgobianma, romelic Sss-s
pressamsaxuris xelmZRvanelia,
Tanamdeboba, minimum, gamoZiebis
dasrulebamde unda datovos Tu
ara?
_ me rom mkiTxoT, mxolod
giorgobiani ki ara, Ss ministric
karga xnis gadamdgari unda iyos!
giorgobians, yvelafers Tavi
rom davaneboT, uflebamosileba
unda SeeCerebina. ase rom moqceuliyo,
sazogadoebaSi ganmtkicdeboda
azri, rom am saqmesTan
dakavSirebuli araa, anu naTesavs
ar mfarvelobs, magram xelisuflebaSi
iseTi zeTavdajarebuloba
aqvT, romelic moralisa da
zneobisgan Zalian daSorebulia!
TanamdebobiT aravin ibadeba. am
adamianebs xval quCaSi gavla xom
undaT da mezoblebsa Tu sxvebs
TvalebSi rogor unda Sexedon?
saerTod, axalgazrdebSi aseTi
konfliqtebi, romelic tragikulad
sruldeba, Zalian gaxSirda.
_ iziarebT mosazrebas, rom
axalgazrdebSi „qurduli men-
talitetis” romantizeba xdeba
da amdeni ubedurebac amis Sede-
gia?
_ ar mgonia, ase iyos.
_ aba, rogor ggoniaT?
_ es ufro kompleqsuri da
rTuli movlenaa.
_ ras gulisxmobT?
_ Cven SeiZleba, „gadavxarSeT”
da 90-ianebi cud koSmarad gvaxsendeba,
magram axalgazrdebi
yvelafer imas, rac maSin xdeboda
_ Zaladobas, ganukiTxaobas,
srolasa Tu usamarTlobas ise
aRiqvamdnen, rogorc cxovrebis
normas. gvikvirs, mozardebi ase-
Ti usulguloebi, sastikebi da
Seubraleblebi ratom arian da
am dros gvaviwydeba, rom isini
iseT garemoSi gaizardnen, roca
yvelaze „magari” biWi xalxs xocavda,
magram mas aravin sjida.
erTi sityviT, am bavSvebisTvis
arcTu Soreul warsulSi samagaliToebi
aseTi „magari biWebi”
iyvnen. Sesabamisad, yvelaferi
es Seisisxlxorces da normad
miiCneven, Torem ar mgonia, „qurduli
samyaros” romantizeba
imaze metad xdebodes, vidre Cems
axalgazrdobaSi iyo, magram Cven
TeTrisa da Savis, avisa da kargis
garCeva ufro SegveZlo, radgan
sikeTe nanaxi gvqonda, anu keTil-
Sobil adamianebs vicnobdiT da
isini sazogadoebisgan pativsacemebi
da dafasebulebi iyvnen.
dRes ki aseTi adamianebi aRar
arian da avtoritetad mZarcveli,
moZalade, yaCaRi, qurdi da
mamaZaRli iTvleba!
_ sxvaTa Soris, „nacionaluri
moZraobis” xelisuflebaSi yof-
nis dros e. w. qurduli samyaros
Sesaxeb kanoni miiRes da adami-
anebs imis Tqmisac ki eSinodaT,
rom „kanonier qurds” icnobdnen.
marTalia, am kanonis anu-
lireba aravis mouxdenia, magram
am kuTxiT dRes simkacris deficitia.
ar meTanxmebiT, qalba-
tono lia?
_ SeiZleba, magram dRes uamravi
informacia arebobs, romliTac
adamiani gaigebs, es samyaro
sinamdvileSi rogoria.mokled,
imis Tqma minda, rom „qurduli
samyaros” romantizeba ki ar xdeba,
aramed axali Taoba im garemos
produqtia, romelSic is
gavzardeT!
_ geTanxmebiT, rom yvela an
TiTqmis yvela problema Savb-
nel 90-ian wlebSi iRebs saTaves,
magram igive „SaqaraSvilis saqme-
Si” ori sayuradRebo detalia:
erTi is, rom saxelmwifo romeliRac
Tanamdebobis piris in-
teresebs icavs da meore is, rom
tragediaSi e. w. zonderjgufe-
bi figurireben. zogadad, bolo
dros „zonderebis” Tema erTob
aqtualuria, anu arsebobs
sportsmenebisgan Tu sxva profesiis
adamianebisgan dako-
mpleqtebuli erTgvari kasta,
romelsac SeuZlia, nebismieri
cudi gaakeTos, magram pasuxs ar
agebs, radgan xelisuflebas misi
vali aqvs?
_ me Tu mkiTxavT, xrwnis procesi
yvela socialur fenaSi midis.
_ anu?
_ ixrwneba xelisufleba, romelic
Tavs ufro maRla mdgomad
miiCnevs. sinamdvileSi ki ase araa.
amasobaSi, kriminaluri elementebi
e. w. politikur elitas Zalian
dauaxlovdnen da daunaTesavdnen.
_ am daaxloeba-danaTesavebis
sababi ra aris?
_ aSkaraa, rom saarCevnod xelisufleba
kriminalur elementebs
iyenebs, anu maT Soris garkveuli
garigeba ideba, rac dana-
Saulis Cadenis dros kriminaluri
elementebis dacvas gulisxmobs.
sxvaTa Soris, yvelafer
aqedan CemTvis erTi Zalian optimisturi
detali gamoikveTa.
_ kerZod?
_ jer erTi, sazogadoeba sajaro
aRSfoTebas gamoxatavs; meorec,
Tavis simaRleze dgas da
faqtebis miCqmalvis uflebas aravis
aZlevs. yvelafer amis gamo
xelisufleba da kriminaluri
samyaroc iZulebuli xdeba, rom
sazogadoebriv azrs angariSi
gauwios. Tu aseT erTianobas gavagrZelebT,
maSin xelisuflebisa
da kriminaluri elementebis
urTierTobas CavaxSobT!
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