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From: Susan Schultz<br />

Subject: boytalk<br />

Kali persuaded me to put this direct message to her onto the list:<br />

Kali–thanks for your remarks of late on "boy talk." As someone who has tried<br />

several times to engage the list in conversation, I wanted to suggest that the<br />

question of "tone" is perhaps a gendered one. I don’t want to over-simplify<br />

matters, but Deborah Tannen’s model of male and female conversations seems<br />

to work as well on this list as it does in my freshman comp class. I got on<br />

another poetry list, populated mainly by new formalist fans, where women<br />

write in a lot–or at least two women do. But far less signifyin’ is going on.<br />

Several people, including one or two men, did contact me directly about things<br />

I’d said; it would be interesting to talk about messages between listees that<br />

aren’t sent to everyone. And now I’m doing it. I was disappointed, however,<br />

when I tried to bring "multiculturalism" into the conversation, and discovered<br />

that these radical language poets, some of them, are quite reactionary in their<br />

literary politics.<br />

So I guess I’d suggest redirecting Golding’s remark about tone; he brought it<br />

up in the right context, but we were then swept right back into boy talk. More<br />

than needing to talk to women, they need to ask more questions; Silliman’s<br />

posting came rather late in the day.

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