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From: Sheila Murphy Subject: Thoughts About Engagement Spencer’s most recent post quite clearly crystallizes some of the concerns that have been discussed around theory/participation/community and the like. His post brings to mind for me the extent to which it perhaps always has been true that there’s little room, certainly in art, and probably in most things, for the pure entity of THE PROCESS AND WHAT’S MADE to exist without that entity’s being propped up by loads of self promotion. An unspoken kind of currency exists in many realms of endeavor. Specifically, having "something to trade," some commodity to hold/exchange/seek that puts one on the board at all. This offering can take the form of publishing, producing programs, critical perspective published or spoken, and undoubtedly several more. Spoken opinion or assessment concerning someone’s work, where and how it fits, what new ground it breaks, etc., has particularly high value associated with it. To me, it has always been true that this kind of exchange pattern has been present. But with the abundance of material and of distribution channels (be they small/large, unofficial/official), including the machines we can access to share them, there’s been an escalation of need to create focus on any given work. (Sort out something that seems to deserve light) However people fare within this system, combined with their own needs for recognition, (and these are not the sole variables!) seems to connect to levels of frustration or levels of felt reward. I suspect that the struggle to be counted forces many people to have to expend far more effort than they would choose just getting into the middle of things and being perceived as complete.. This, of course, can rob time from producing work one cares about producing. I feel this among people in the earnings world, too. So much energy goes into getting one’s name out about one’s business services, etc., that there’s too little time (sometimes) left for doing what one does. This whole issue seems pertinent to the theory question within the world of practice. I hate to put theory into the category of "must do," as though it were something no one would do if they didn’t have to, because it’s at least potentially worthy and elegant and illuminating an a thing unto itself. (Transcending the level of inventing a frame within which to illuminate what one is doing!) But for some people, at least the writing about writing aspect is a price to pay to get closer to what is wanted. I have no particular answer for this except to say that the sooner one can pursue something at the center of her or his passionate concerns, without the
equirement of having to "pay dues," the more satisfying and possibly meaningful the work can become. I suppose that dues paying will always be with us (But try not to think of it as often as I think about my work!)
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Preface Above the world-weary horiz
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of 750 subscribers. Because of the
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Introduction In a world where every
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But the "good old days" have passed
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Coeval with . . . to Ghosts vs. Mar
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From: Kevin Killian Subject: Carla
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If there’s one thing Harry learne
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The conservatism in this country co
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arts the mainstream is-and over the
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University of Auckland, is convenor
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less literate is implied by that "m
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What I am bothered about in these r
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From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Breaki
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characterization of some the struct
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This is not so much ingratiation of
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My reconstruction of the argument i
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into the poetic. And I am wondering
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From: Patrick Phillips Subject: The
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ideology which contorts the referen
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disparaging Reznikoff-while preserv
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intervention). Though I can anticip
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eturns, repetitions, etc., is perme
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From: Benjamin Friedlander Subject:
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shrewd, often polemical presence of
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eadings, recognition. Being inside,
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If I resist the idea of a literary
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From: Susan Schultz Subject: Commun
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From: Patrick Phillips Subject: The
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From: Steve Evans Subject: the soci
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The tradition of the oppressed teac
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My wobble is social, not theoretica
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From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Spicer
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From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Re: Gh
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Hermit Crabs Don’t Cry to Politic
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From: Robert Creeley Subject: Chick
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From: Jed Rasula Subject: Re: Olson
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BED… (P.S. Just in Baltimore and
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Motivat
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Motives
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past year or so, despite the fact t
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It seems clear to me that some of t
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To clarify one general point in clo
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the most "out there" manifesto we
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Actually, the question of age is a
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indulges in "increasingly modest fo
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From: Tony Green Subject: calling G
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Flaming
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parataxis, collage, sonnets, whatev
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From: Larry Price Subject: Anachron
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Exile o
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From: Paul Hoover Subject: politics
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From: Aldon L. Nielsen Subject: lat
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Every site glides away toward absen
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Certain aspects of desire were regi
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whatever chaotic way) offer the abi
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From: Susan Schultz Subject: notes
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mouth, thick with money and piety a
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Shake Th
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From: Susan Schultz Subject: haoles
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Univers
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Universa
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From: James Sherry Subject: Re: Uni
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From: Wystan Curnow Subject: Re-Aca
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From: John Cayley Subject: Experime
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From: Marisa A Januzzi Subject: dis
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Page 149 and 150: From: Ira Lightman Subject: CALL FO
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Page 157 and 158: From: Ron Silliman Subject: Boy Tal
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Page 161 and 162: Look at it this way-email is one of
Page 163 and 164: From: Nada Gordon Subject: where th
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Page 169 and 170: I do not want to be a woman all the
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(politically indifferent, not worth
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Lee Bartlett did with Palmer in the
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seems to be a general consensus on
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From: Alfred Corn Subject: More For
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From: Marjorie Perloff Subject: Jor
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Childre
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From: Kevin Killian Subject: A happ
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From: Mark Wallace Subject: bland a
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From: Mark McMorris Subject: Re: bl
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what one could call a systematic sy
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While I agree with Jeff Hansen’s
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in this way as part of a guarantee
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The generational change has probabl
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of "elective affinity" by selective
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From: Jeff Hansen Subject: wild blu
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Hansen’s argument echoes (conscio
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not be so elegantly presented as it
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From: Jerry Rothenberg Subject: on
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I cannot make it cohere. I can read
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Before reading Pound, I had only re
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So why am I still conflicted about
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typos!) once a poem was in print. S
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Reproductions of Banality: Fascism,
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influence. This new Pound criticism
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Yet Pound’s poetry is never simpl
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From: Dick Higgins Subject: Web Poe
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