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From: Peter Larkin Subject: Re: Wild Blue Yonder Steve Carll is quite right, a total forgetting would be of the how as well as the what; it would no longer be an act, as the forgetting would itself be forgotten. In cultural terms, the process can be nothing like as absolute, but where forgetting is "deliberate" it is not in itself forgotten, but remembered either as a strategy "clearing the decks", or can set off some sort of work of mourning. The latter seems the David Jones area, though he also liked to think of a healthy culture as baggily retentive and found it difficult to let anything go. Perhaps some sort of ecological model might serve, where cultures assimilate organically over long periods, but then reach a "post-climax" stage defined by dissemination, absolute innovation and depletion. But through all that are the minimal attachments required to keep any sort of societal or cultural possibility in play at all, a play not in itself within the terms of a general dissemination. I have been thinking about these things in a recent piece of writing called "Let Attachment Assoil Us", and a couple of paras from the Prefatory Note I would quite like to float here, to see if they seem to mean anything: Whatever has the instinct of attachment operates as a careful fragment in our culture. The fragment’s present form seems penetrated (beyond break-point) by the liability of not being a discard, but only gradually does it continue to own the vocation of an unsafe unity. The gift is ill-received as much as lost, and the former condition must go on figuring within a poetics of retention that would revise our habits of acceptance. Only out of this primal grasping can a poetic offering, along a road of self-forgiveness rather than negativity, be made. Without an acknowledgement of the charged nature of burden, of the fact we are all owners of the fantasy of numinous attachment, alterity itself would be a figment. The unpossessed has transformed itself into the unreleasable, but until a gesture is made in time with this burden, the resistance of the other cannot even appear. And if it does appear it will not appear alone, the power of resistance will no longer be confused with autonomy. The justified weaker term will have won a freedom, beyond strategic manipulations normalising opposition, to attach itself.
From: Jeff Hansen Subject: wild blue yonder Larry Price … wondered how I could apply the term "wild blue yonder" to a piece by Ron Silliman such as "Ketjak." I wasn’t. … I was concerned less with the work of Silliman–which I admire for the most part–than with the various ways that he has discussed the poetry of the "emerging generation," both in the posting noted by Mark Wallace and in other places. Silliman has made several comments that seem to indicate he values new poetic techniques in younger poets, rather than their exploring the possiblities within, between and around techniques already in existence. I take issue with his seeming preference for the radically new over other types of exploration. Both seem valuable to me, although I am skeptical about the possibility of creating radically new forms right now–which is why I termed preference for The New as "the wild blue yonder."
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Preface Above the world-weary horiz
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of 750 subscribers. Because of the
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Introduction In a world where every
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But the "good old days" have passed
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Coeval with . . . to Ghosts vs. Mar
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From: Kevin Killian Subject: Carla
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If there’s one thing Harry learne
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The conservatism in this country co
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arts the mainstream is-and over the
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University of Auckland, is convenor
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less literate is implied by that "m
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What I am bothered about in these r
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From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Breaki
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characterization of some the struct
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This is not so much ingratiation of
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My reconstruction of the argument i
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into the poetic. And I am wondering
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From: Patrick Phillips Subject: The
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ideology which contorts the referen
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disparaging Reznikoff-while preserv
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intervention). Though I can anticip
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eturns, repetitions, etc., is perme
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From: Benjamin Friedlander Subject:
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shrewd, often polemical presence of
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eadings, recognition. Being inside,
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If I resist the idea of a literary
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From: Susan Schultz Subject: Commun
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From: Patrick Phillips Subject: The
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From: Steve Evans Subject: the soci
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The tradition of the oppressed teac
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My wobble is social, not theoretica
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From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Spicer
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From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Re: Gh
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Hermit Crabs Don’t Cry to Politic
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From: Jed Rasula Subject: Re: Olson
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BED… (P.S. Just in Baltimore and
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Motivat
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Motives
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past year or so, despite the fact t
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It seems clear to me that some of t
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To clarify one general point in clo
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the most "out there" manifesto we
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Actually, the question of age is a
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indulges in "increasingly modest fo
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From: Tony Green Subject: calling G
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Flaming
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parataxis, collage, sonnets, whatev
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From: Larry Price Subject: Anachron
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Exile o
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From: Paul Hoover Subject: politics
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From: Aldon L. Nielsen Subject: lat
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Every site glides away toward absen
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Certain aspects of desire were regi
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whatever chaotic way) offer the abi
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From: Susan Schultz Subject: notes
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mouth, thick with money and piety a
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Shake Th
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From: Susan Schultz Subject: haoles
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Univers
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Universa
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From: James Sherry Subject: Re: Uni
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From: Wystan Curnow Subject: Re-Aca
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From: John Cayley Subject: Experime
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From: Marisa A Januzzi Subject: dis
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Two senses of disorder, as also man
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At its best, Language poetry never
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hymed couplets I’ll be a langpo w
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From: Leslie Scalapino Subject: Re:
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From: Tom Mandel Subject: Re: apex
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From: Marjorie Perloff Subject: Re:
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language fails to describe their ex
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From: Eric Pape Subject: Re: apex o
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All every night walk by the venue i
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From: Ira Lightman Subject: CALL FO
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From: Bob Perelman Subject: Governm
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independence and possible sense of
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imagination, and often introduces t
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Boy Tal
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From: B. Cass Clarke Subject: Quan
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Look at it this way-email is one of
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From: Nada Gordon Subject: where th
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From: Cynthia Kimball Subject: Ghos
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From: Loss Glazier Subject: Re: boy
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I do not want to be a woman all the
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i yam what i yam a world-changing f
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SAME TIME TO EXPLORE THEORIES OF SE
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From: Kali Tal Subject: Re: Boy Tal
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From: Ann Louise Vickery Subject: D
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From: Colleen Lookingbill Subject:
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7) Denial is an important part of t
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equirement of having to "pay dues,"
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From: Keith Tuma Subject: Re: Close
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From: Maria Damon Subject: more on
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From: David McAleavey Subject: Re:
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From: Hank Lazer Subject: close rea
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d’appui). It is easier for studen
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7a. Most probably that the monolith
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From: Eliot Katz Subject: more on c
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emancipatory elements which a reade
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From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: what
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in the culture through coercion of
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From: Kali Tal Subject: Re: what do
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