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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Ghosts vs. Martians Dodie’s comments re Spicer made me think about the fact that there are TWO categories of communicative Other in Spicer’s work. Martians is one, but ghosts are the other. What I want to know is What is the difference between these two realms for Spicer? Am totally envious that you get to read that book while I, like the rest of the world, just have to wait.
From: Dodie Bellamy Subject: Re: Ghosts vs. Martians Ron, I have spent the morning bugging Kevin about what he sees as the difference between Martians and ghosts. KK seems to think that they are, in fact, metaphors for the same phenomenon–which particular term Spicer chose often depending on who he was talking to. KK said that Martians seemed to drop away after a while, and ghosts took over as the predominant image. KK doesn’t see much connection between the Martian dialect and this, seeing speaking Martian simply as a game that lovers play. Have you ever made up a language with another, Ron? I have. And, yes, I do feel lucky reading this book. But I also feel lucky about my long-term, totally passive exposure to Spicer’s work and world, which began long before KK started the Spicer bio. Early on in my writing career Bruce Boone would read me Spicer and discuss his poetry and Bruce’s vision of community. I remember Bruce having a party where a large group of us sat around his Noe Valley apartment and listened to a tape of Spicer reading The Holy Grail. And then there was the Spicer conference at New College. And John Granger’s striking talk on Spicer at Small Press Traffic. And I’ve been particularly lucky in having met many of the people discussed in the Spicer bio. There’s something very gratifying about having myself developed as a writer in San Francisco, and being emersed in this historical community which still has traces in the present. Recently KK, Peter Gizzi, and I went to the memorial service of the painter Tom Field, who was part of the Spicer circle. As I was leaving, Joanne Kyger and a number of other survivors of that era took what remained of the wine and headed up to Tom’s room to drink because they could feel Tom there. Ghosts.
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Preface Above the world-weary horiz
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of 750 subscribers. Because of the
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Introduction In a world where every
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But the "good old days" have passed
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Coeval with . . . to Ghosts vs. Mar
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From: Kevin Killian Subject: Carla
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From: Steve Evans Subject: Shake Th
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From: Marisa A Januzzi Subject: dis
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Two senses of disorder, as also man
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At its best, Language poetry never
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hymed couplets I’ll be a langpo w
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From: Leslie Scalapino Subject: Re:
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From: Tom Mandel Subject: Re: apex
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From: Marjorie Perloff Subject: Re:
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language fails to describe their ex
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From: Eric Pape Subject: Re: apex o
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All every night walk by the venue i
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From: Ira Lightman Subject: CALL FO
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From: Bob Perelman Subject: Governm
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independence and possible sense of
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imagination, and often introduces t
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Boy Tal
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From: B. Cass Clarke Subject: Quan
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Look at it this way-email is one of
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I do not want to be a woman all the
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i yam what i yam a world-changing f
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SAME TIME TO EXPLORE THEORIES OF SE
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From: Ann Louise Vickery Subject: D
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7) Denial is an important part of t
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equirement of having to "pay dues,"
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d’appui). It is easier for studen
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7a. Most probably that the monolith
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emancipatory elements which a reade
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From: Maria Damon Subject: Re: what
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in the culture through coercion of
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their experience in a potent form-t
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But her [Stein’s] account of firs
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ecognized as "man." In the cane-wei
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Value i
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From: Alan Golding Subject: Howe No
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so-called so-called Language writer
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From: Keith Tuma Subject: Ghost Cor
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ones that distinguish LP from "main
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the "mainstream" poetry that has th
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(politically indifferent, not worth
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Lee Bartlett did with Palmer in the
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seems to be a general consensus on
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From: Marjorie Perloff Subject: Jor
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From: Ron Silliman Subject: Childre
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From: Kevin Killian Subject: A happ
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From: Mark Wallace Subject: bland a
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From: Mark McMorris Subject: Re: bl
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what one could call a systematic sy
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While I agree with Jeff Hansen’s
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in this way as part of a guarantee
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The generational change has probabl
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of "elective affinity" by selective
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From: Jeff Hansen Subject: wild blu
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Hansen’s argument echoes (conscio
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not be so elegantly presented as it
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From: Jerry Rothenberg Subject: on
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I cannot make it cohere. I can read
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Before reading Pound, I had only re
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So why am I still conflicted about
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typos!) once a poem was in print. S
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Reproductions of Banality: Fascism,
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influence. This new Pound criticism
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Yet Pound’s poetry is never simpl
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From: Dick Higgins Subject: Web Poe
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