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280 I <strong>Chose</strong> <strong>Liberty</strong>: Autobiographies of Contemporary Libertarians<br />

midnight, usually at Rothbard’s apartment, and frequently met on weekends. We informally<br />

called ourselves “The Circle Bastiat,” after the leading nineteenth-century French advocate<br />

of capitalism, Frédéric Bastiat.<br />

At one of our gatherings, in the summer of 1954, over three years before the publication<br />

of Atlas Shrugged, Rothbard brought up the name Ayn Rand, whom I had not previously<br />

heard of. He described her as an extremely interesting person and, when he observed<br />

the curiosity of our whole group, asked if we would be interested in meeting her. Everyone<br />

in the group was very much interested. He then proceeded to arrange a meeting for the<br />

second Saturday night in July, at her apartment in midtown Manhattan.<br />

That meeting, and the next one a week later, had an unforgettable effect on me. In the<br />

year or more before I entered Ayn Rand’s apartment, I held three explicitly formulated<br />

leading intellectual values: liberalism (in the sense in which <strong>Mises</strong> used the term, and which<br />

actually meant capitalism); utilitarianism, which was my philosophy of ethics and which<br />

I had learned largely from <strong>Mises</strong> (though not entirely, inasmuch as I had already come to<br />

the conclusion on my own that everything a person does is selfish insofar as it seeks to<br />

achieve his ends, a conclusion that I now consider to be mistaken, because it attaches no<br />

objective meaning to the concept of self); and “McCarthyism,” which I was enthusiastically<br />

for, because I believed that the country was heavily infested with communists and socialists,<br />

whom I detested, and to whom Senator McCarthy was causing a major amount of upset.<br />

By the time I left Ayn Rand’s apartment, even after the first meeting, I was seriously shaken<br />

in my attachment to utilitarianism.<br />

Both meetings began at about 8:30 in the evening and lasted until about 5:00 the<br />

following morning. When I was introduced to her, I had no real idea of her intellectual<br />

caliber. I quickly began to learn her estimate of herself, however, when I offered her two<br />

tickets to an upcoming dinner in honor of Roy Cohn, Senator McCarthy’s chief aide, at<br />

which Senator McCarthy would be present. (I was scheduled to make a brief speech at the<br />

event, and when I mentioned to one of the event’s organizers that I was going to meet Ayn<br />

Rand, she asked me to extend the invitation.) Miss Rand declined the invitation on the<br />

grounds that to get involved as she would need to get involved, she would have to drop her<br />

present project (which was the writing of Atlas Shrugged) and do for McCarthy what Zola<br />

had done for Dreyfus. I had seen the Paul Muni movie Zola, and so had a good idea of<br />

Zola’s stature. I don’t quite remember how I experienced the comparison, but it was probably<br />

something comparable to the expression of a silent whistle. (After I came to appreciate<br />

the nature of Ayn Rand’s accomplishments, a comparison to Zola would seem several orders<br />

of magnitude too modest.)<br />

At both meetings, most of the time was taken up with my arguing with Ayn Rand<br />

about whether values were subjective or objective, while Rothbard, as he himself later<br />

described it, looked on with amusement, watching me raise all the same questions and<br />

objections he had raised on some previous occasion, equally to no avail.<br />

I had a sense of amazement at both meetings. I was amazed that I was involved in an<br />

argument that in the beginning seemed absolutely open and shut to me, and yet that I could<br />

not win. I was amazed that my opponent was expressing views that I found both utterly<br />

naïve and at the same time was incapable of answering without being driven to support

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