My Way_ Speeches and Poems - Charles Bernstein
My Way_ Speeches and Poems - Charles Bernstein
My Way_ Speeches and Poems - Charles Bernstein
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64 A N I N T E R V lEW WIT H HAN N A HMO C K E L - R I EKE<br />
a particular technique might not be valuable or that attention should<br />
not be called to it, but that specific techniques should not be idealized.<br />
What was interesting about the work associated with<br />
L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E is precisely that it did not represent a school<br />
or a style or a single linear tradition with a starting point <strong>and</strong> a series<br />
of red letter dates; if anything, grouping together these approaches<br />
to writing exploded the idea of a single origin, a single school. We<br />
are talking about synthesizing or grafting approaches with very different<br />
agendas, styles, origins, <strong>and</strong> concerns but which, nonetheless,<br />
were being related in terms of specific frames provided.<br />
I'm not suggesting that these scenes of writing were free from<br />
doctrinaire aesthetics-that is a utopian idea that bears little relation<br />
to the social exchanges of actually existing poets. But I do think<br />
that the many doctrines we sometimes debated <strong>and</strong> sometimes<br />
practiced did undercut the tendency among many clusters of poets<br />
toward social exclusivity. The issue <strong>and</strong> aesthetic orientation of<br />
L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E tended to bring in a larger <strong>and</strong> more unpredictable<br />
assortment of interested parties than a more social (or scene)<br />
focus could possibly have allowed. You might say we met each other<br />
through the work <strong>and</strong> not the other way around. And the number of<br />
people involved has always been well beyond any easy count.<br />
I would say that the interconnection among the poetic styles<br />
attended to in L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E has to do with the rejection of<br />
certain traditionally accepted techniques for poem-making <strong>and</strong> an<br />
openness to alternative techniques, together with a distrust of the<br />
experimental as an end to itself-i.e., theatricalizing the processes of<br />
poem generation rather than making the poems (though this last<br />
point treads a narrow <strong>and</strong> arguable line). Surely, there was a deep<br />
distrust of the typical "workshop" poem of too easy personal<br />
epiphany-"Your glances, like lances I incise the blister I of my feelings<br />
II or am I just a mat I for you to rub off I the muck of your lifelike<br />
life"-poems that assume a "voice" without making any effort to<br />
hear the voices <strong>and</strong> sounds in the language, in the materials-the<br />
poem's "actual word stuff", to use a phrase of Zukofsky's. But also,<br />
built in, was the distrust that any new style or technique or device<br />
was the gold pot at the end of the rainbow; that is, a commitment to<br />
the need for a multiplicity of stylistic approaches among a multiplicity<br />
of poets, <strong>and</strong> even for one poet. So a shared "opposition", a<br />
shared dissidence.<br />
Or put it this way: a poem by TIna Darragh or David Melnick has<br />
less in common with a poem by Lyn Hejinian or Bruce Andrews,<br />
though all are in the Tree anthology, than any two poems by their