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8.2. Access to interview friends, independent witnesses and interpreters<br />

8.2.1. Interview friends<br />

The <strong>Act</strong> gives certain suspects the right to have an ‘interview friend’ present. An interview friend is essentially a<br />

support person and advocate for the suspect. An interview friend includes persons such as a parent, guardian, legal<br />

representative, or other person acceptable to the suspect. 716 Where the <strong>Act</strong> provides that a suspect must be informed<br />

about a matter and an interview friend is present, the interview friend must also be informed. Interview friends may<br />

also make requests or objections on the suspect’s behalf. 717<br />

The <strong>Act</strong> provides for interview friends in the following circumstances:<br />

• Children and incapable persons can only undergo a forensic procedure by order of a court, and must have<br />

an interview friend present at the hearing (or for interim orders only when this is reasonably practicable). The<br />

forensic procedure must generally (i.e. if reasonably practicable) be carried out in the presence of the interview<br />

friend or a legal practitioner. 718<br />

• Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander suspects must have an interview friend present when police ask<br />

the suspect to consent to a forensic procedure. If police apply for a court order, the suspect must have an<br />

interview friend present at the hearing. The forensic procedure must generally (i.e. if reasonably practicable)<br />

be carried out in the presence of the interview friend or a legal practitioner. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander<br />

suspects may waive their right to have an interview friend present. 719<br />

The court may exclude an interview friend if the interview friend unreasonably interferes or obstructs the hearing of the<br />

application. An interview friend (other than a legal representative) may also be excluded from the request for consent<br />

or the place where the forensic procedure is to be carried out if:<br />

(a) the interview friend unreasonably interferes with or obstructs the carrying out of the procedure, or<br />

(b) the investigating police officer forms a belief based on reasonable grounds that the presence of the interview<br />

friend could be prejudicial to the investigation of an offence because the interview friend may be a cooffender<br />

of the suspect or may be involved in some other way, with the suspect, in the commission of<br />

the offence. 720<br />

If an interview friend (other than a legal representative) is excluded under either of these provisions, the suspect<br />

or volunteer may choose another person as their interview friend. In the case of a child or incapable person, if the<br />

suspect or volunteer does not choose another interview friend, the police officer conducting the procedure “may<br />

arrange for any person who may act as an interview friend to be present”. 721 A similar provision applies if the suspect<br />

or volunteer is an adult Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander, and does not waive their right to have an interview friend<br />

present. The interview friend can be a relative, legal practitioner or other person chosen by the suspect or volunteer. 722<br />

8.2.1.1. Compliance with the <strong>Act</strong><br />

There are two ways in which an interview friend is obtained for a suspect or volunteer entitled to one. Firstly, the<br />

person may identify the person (such as a parent). Secondly, local area commands may have a list of persons able<br />

to assist. Some of the commands we audited indicated they did not arrange for interview friends, on the basis that<br />

these persons may appear partial. Others indicated they did arrange for interview friends, and kept lists of names and<br />

contact details for people who could be used. One command had good relations with a local resident who was in<br />

the Salvation Army, who could be contacted at any time. Another command kept a list of Aboriginal elders with whom<br />

police have built relations with over time to refer to if they needed. Another command, which had a reasonably high<br />

Aboriginal population, said it was used to organising support people for Aboriginal suspects and that arranging for an<br />

interview friend for a forensic procedure was just as straightforward: “We do it every day.”<br />

Some officers said the main problem with interview friends is that it may take some time for an interview friend to<br />

attend. We acknowledge that waiting for an interview friend may cause delays, but note that this will be ‘time out’<br />

under section 3 of the <strong>Act</strong>. Further, if police liaise with local community members and service providers, and keep a<br />

list of contact details of people who can act as interview friends or independent persons, this may reduce any such<br />

delays and also the time the suspect spends in custody.<br />

We also examined this issue in our survey of local area commands where responses indicated that 16 commands<br />

had problems arranging appropriate interview friends. These problems mainly related to the person chosen being<br />

unsuitable. For example:<br />

<strong>NSW</strong> <strong>Ombudsman</strong><br />

DNA sampling and other forensic procedures conducted on suspects and volunteers under the <strong>Crimes</strong> (<strong>Forensic</strong> <strong>Procedures</strong>) <strong>Act</strong> <strong>2000</strong> 135

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