The Intelligent Troglodyte’s Guide to Plato’s Republic, 2016a

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Back What about the democratic city and soul? Didn’t Socrates and Glaucon agree that life in the democratic city is pleasant (558a)? So by the same analogy they use to argue against the happiness of the tyrannical soul, wouldn’t it follow that the democratic soul lives pleasantly? It samples all the pleasures, and even dabbles in something like philosophy when it feels like it. It may not engage in any real dialectical conversation, or approach the truth about the essence of things, but does it suffer for this? Socrates suggests at 576a that the tyrannical person never gets a taste of true friendship. Is this true? What is true friendship, and why might Socrates think that being ruled by a powerful lawless desire prevents it?
84 The Second Proof: Who’s to Say? See 580c-583a. The second argument is as follows: Each part of the soul has a different kind of pleasure associated with it, and the person ruled by that part of the soul values its associated pleasure as most pleasant. But only the person ruled by the rational part (the philosopher) has experienced enough of all three kinds of pleasure to be in a position to judge between them. And only the philosopher is especially practiced at giving and evaluating arguments – an important skill for being a good judge. Since the philosopher is the best judge of the three kinds of pleasure, the pleasure that the philosopher judges to be most pleasant (“the pleasure of learning the nature of the things that are”) is in truth most pleasant. And so, the person ruled by the rational part of the soul – the just person – will live most pleasantly. Suppose a wealthy sensualist (a democratic soul) were to go up to Socrates and say, “Listen, Socrates, you say that you philosophers know about the pleasures of the appetitive part of the soul. Well, you think you do, but you don’t. In fact, thinking is just your problem. Thinking keeps you from really enjoying anything outside of philosophy. You talk, talk, talk, forever analyzing our life here on earth. But this is precisely what stops you from ever really enjoying the pleasures of the flesh. You suppose you know what good food or good sex is like. You haven’t a clue. Only the person who embraces sensuality as a vocation, who cultivates its pleasures in all their variety and splendor, who becomes a true connoisseur of this beautiful world (which you so pathetically dismiss as a “cave”) – only such a person is in a position to judge the value of these things.” How might Socrates reply? Back
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19 Luxuries in the Just City 20 The
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Book I
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Back Is it possible to persuade a
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3 Treasure for Heaven See 329d-331b
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5 The Craft of Justice See 332b-334
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7 The Advantage of the Stronger See
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8 The Good Shepherd See 339a-348b.
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9 The Blushing Argument See 348b-35
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10 Function, Virtue, and the Soul S
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14 The Challenge See 360e-362c. Soc
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15 The Teaching of Justice See 362c
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16 Glaucon’s Lover See 368a. Not
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20 The Good Soldier See 374a-376e.
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22 Gods Causing Bad Things See 377d
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24 Fear and Grief See 386a-388e. So
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28 The Emotional Power of Tune and
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31 Doctors and Judges See 405a-410a
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32 Harmony in the Soul See 410a-412
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33 Rulers See 412b-414b. It has bee
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36 The City as a Whole See 419a-423
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38 Wisdom in the City See 427d-429a
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40 Temperance in the City See 430d-
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pleasures of the body, with sensual
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50 The Waging of War See 466c-471e.
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Page 174 and 175: 79, 82, 83 Suffering, 6, 12, 14, 22
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