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PUBLIC HOLIDAYS AMENDMENT BILL 2011<br />

Thursday, 2 June 2011 COUNCIL 1707<br />

holiday, that this full day or these two half-days in these<br />

parts <strong>of</strong> the shire or the entire shire will be a public<br />

holiday’. All we have done is give them the flexibility<br />

and the choice, as I indicated in my initial presentation.<br />

I believe that is a good thing. It is good for business, it<br />

is good for the shires to have a bit <strong>of</strong> control and it is<br />

also a great outcome for all those who are operating<br />

under difficult circumstances.<br />

Ms PULFORD (Western <strong>Victoria</strong>) — I thank the<br />

minister for his response. I am also familiar with the<br />

way in which the public holiday arrangements for 2010<br />

are expressed in the document to which he referred. I<br />

would like to assure the minister that that is a reflection<br />

<strong>of</strong> the express wishes <strong>of</strong> those municipalities, so what<br />

the minister has just described as being a — —<br />

Mr P. Davis — Could the member repeat that? We<br />

could not quite hear what Ms Pulford was saying.<br />

Ms PULFORD — Sorry. Those arrangements are<br />

as a consequence <strong>of</strong> discussions between the former<br />

government and those municipalities. Whilst it may<br />

look a little untidy as an overall <strong>Victoria</strong>n picture, in<br />

that postcode 3444 gets one arrangement — that is<br />

Kyneton, where they have the Kyneton Cup — and<br />

Carlsruhe might have a different arrangement, and in<br />

Yarriambiack we talked about five different townships<br />

wanting to celebrate on five different days, in my<br />

experience those arrangements are very clear to the<br />

communities involved.<br />

In the Golden Plains shire there is a line on the map<br />

expressed in that document that splits the shire two<br />

different ways, so what I would assert to the minister is<br />

that the flexibility he is seeking to introduce with the<br />

legislation has in many circumstances worked well. It<br />

has worked well by agreement and discussion with the<br />

nine councils — out <strong>of</strong> the 79 in <strong>Victoria</strong> — that sought<br />

a split-shire arrangement. I could perhaps just take the<br />

opportunity, given that the minister has mentioned the<br />

Yarriambiack shire — —<br />

Mr Koch — On a point <strong>of</strong> order, Deputy President,<br />

I would like to mention in this committee stage that<br />

what has been indicated by the member is not the case.<br />

The DEPUTY PRESIDENT — Order! That is not<br />

a point <strong>of</strong> order; it is a point <strong>of</strong> debate.<br />

Ms PULFORD — Briefly in response, that is my<br />

recollection <strong>of</strong> how those arrangements were entered<br />

into. Those arrangements are a reflection <strong>of</strong> the desires<br />

<strong>of</strong> those municipalities in 2010, so the arrangements<br />

that were made in 2010 — —<br />

Mr Koch interjected.<br />

The DEPUTY PRESIDENT — Order! I will call<br />

Mr Koch if he wishes to make a contribution in a<br />

minute.<br />

Ms PULFORD — The Golden Plains Shire Council<br />

arrangements with the two dates are in the document<br />

Mr Dalla-Riva referred to. I appreciate that the minister<br />

has indicated that the substantive difference therefore is<br />

the opportunity for half-days, and perhaps on clause 3<br />

we might come back to that, but the minister did<br />

mention the Yarriambiack shire experience. I am keen<br />

to understand how the legislation applies to the<br />

Yarriambiack shire, because it was a particularly<br />

challenging situation with five distinctly separate<br />

communities.<br />

When I read the bill I wondered how the split days and<br />

the split localities worked together, because the bill<br />

seems to suggest two half-day options, but how does<br />

that work in a shire that wants to celebrate on five<br />

separate days? As I understand it — and again my<br />

recollection is from dealings on this issue last year —<br />

the bill certainly seems to suggest you can have two<br />

half-days, not five half-days. I would appreciate some<br />

clarification — —<br />

The DEPUTY PRESIDENT — Order! I think<br />

Ms Pulford is raising questions that relate to clause 3. If<br />

members have completed their contribution on the<br />

purpose clause, let us move on and raise the direct<br />

questions in relation to those specific questions. Does<br />

the minister want to respond?<br />

Hon. R. A. DALLA-RIVA (Minister for<br />

Employment and Industrial Relations) — The advisers<br />

have explained the complexities <strong>of</strong> the way it was<br />

operating, and I stand by the comments I made earlier<br />

to Ms Pennicuik. The legislation has caused mass<br />

confusion. I was just illustrating that with some<br />

examples. As I said, I am happy to provide this<br />

document to Ms Pulford so she can understand it, but<br />

the bottom line is that there are 48 councils that had the<br />

capacity to have different arrangements. Nine shires<br />

had 14 different arrangements. They had no half-days.<br />

The councils could not request half-day or part-shire<br />

holidays unless they went through a convoluted<br />

process. What we are doing with this legislation is very<br />

clearly and simply keeping our election commitment. I<br />

think the details we are getting into now relate to later<br />

clauses in the bill, and I will be happy to go into them.<br />

Ms PENNICUIK (Southern Metropolitan) — I<br />

want to follow up on two things the minister said.<br />

Firstly, he was kind enough to tell me that 6 <strong>of</strong> the<br />

48 shires he wrote to responded. Could he tell me<br />

which 6 they were?

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