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PUBLIC HOLIDAYS AMENDMENT BILL 2011<br />

Thursday, 2 June 2011 COUNCIL 1717<br />

operating around regional <strong>Victoria</strong> that may have some<br />

impact or may not. The bottom line is that there are still<br />

11 public holidays, so the entitlements for those<br />

holidays remain.<br />

Ms PENNICUIK (Southern Metropolitan) — I do<br />

not take issue with the minister’s last point. I refer to<br />

the earlier part <strong>of</strong> his answer, where he said the issue<br />

was not raised with him through correspondence from<br />

municipalities. It was raised with the Minister for<br />

Innovation, Services and Small Business by the Shop,<br />

Distributive and Allied Employees Association in a<br />

letter that says:<br />

Many enterprise agreements anticipate that outside<br />

metropolitan Melbourne another day may be taken as a public<br />

holiday in lieu <strong>of</strong> Melbourne Cup Day. However, they<br />

normally assume it is a single day. If the government’s<br />

amendment goes through, there will be confusion and<br />

uncertainty as to whether by virtue <strong>of</strong> the enterprise<br />

agreement and with operation <strong>of</strong> the national employment<br />

standards employees are entitled to two half-days, one full<br />

day or one full day plus one half-day. (It may be possible<br />

under some enterprise agreements that employees may be<br />

entitled to two full days.)<br />

This confusion and uncertainty existed in the past. We had<br />

disputes with employers over whether the act or the enterprise<br />

agreement provision took precedence until the ALP tidied it<br />

all up by providing very clear options in the act.<br />

The minister might not agree with that last point. I am<br />

genuinely concerned about how this will be<br />

implemented and how it will affect ordinary people.<br />

How will they be able to ensure either that they get their<br />

entitlement to a half-day <strong>of</strong>f or they get the half-day’s<br />

pay at public holiday rates?<br />

Hon. R. A. DALLA-RIVA (Minister for<br />

Employment and Industrial Relations) — The advice I<br />

have is that it was not an issue raised by any <strong>of</strong> the<br />

regional correspondence in letters or emails generated<br />

in response to this matter prior to 2008. As I indicated<br />

earlier, employees’ entitlements in regard to work on<br />

full-day or half-day holidays in lieu <strong>of</strong> Melbourne Cup<br />

Day are determined by the commonwealth’s Fair Work<br />

laws and the employment contract agreement or award<br />

that applies to the employee. I think we need to<br />

understand that.<br />

Ms PENNICUIK (Southern Metropolitan) — I am<br />

not happy with the minister telling me that because this<br />

issue has not been raised in correspondence with<br />

regional people he should not be required to give me an<br />

answer. I am raising the issue. It was raised in<br />

correspondence with the minister, and it is an important<br />

issue. I am raising the question <strong>of</strong> how this is going to<br />

be implemented, and I have every right to raise that.<br />

Whether or not it has been raised in correspondence is<br />

probably not pertinent at all. I put forward the<br />

hypothetical example, which is actually not<br />

hypothetical, <strong>of</strong> a health service worker, a nurse, who is<br />

required to work on the day <strong>of</strong> the Traralgon show and<br />

is rostered on for a 7.00 to 3.00 or a 7.00 to 4.00 shift<br />

when a half-day public holiday has been declared for<br />

that day. What penalty rates will that nurse be paid for<br />

that public holiday? Under what instrument is that<br />

going to be made available?<br />

Hon. R. A. DALLA-RIVA (Minister for<br />

Employment and Industrial Relations) — As I have<br />

indicated, the payment for work performed on a public<br />

holiday is determined by any applicable employment<br />

contracts, awards or agreements. Ms Pennicuik has<br />

singled out one example. I proposed earlier that we<br />

should not single out individual circumstances because<br />

they may not be representative <strong>of</strong> all agreements in<br />

terms <strong>of</strong> employment agreements, but I have identified<br />

that it is important to understand that the relationship<br />

between such agreements and the Public Holidays Act<br />

1993 is a matter to be addressed by the parties to each<br />

agreement within the framework <strong>of</strong> the commonwealth<br />

laws. It would be unfair to single out one particular<br />

agreement, but I understand where Ms Pennicuik is at,<br />

and as I indicated earlier that would be dealt with by<br />

both her and Mr Somyurek.<br />

Ms PENNICUIK (Southern Metropolitan) — I do<br />

not wish to labour this matter anymore. I think I have<br />

made my point. It is a genuine concern <strong>of</strong> mine as to<br />

how this is going to play out on the ground for ordinary<br />

workers in the different parts <strong>of</strong> the state that may<br />

declare different holidays in different locations, which<br />

would not be reflected in their industrial instruments. I<br />

ask the minister, as the Minister for Employment and<br />

Industrial Relations, whether he will, over the next year<br />

or two — at least two years I would suggest, but<br />

probably longer — monitor the situation and assist<br />

parties to agreements and industrial awards to make<br />

sure that workers covered by them either get the time<br />

<strong>of</strong>f to which they are entitled without a fight or are paid<br />

their entitlements if they have to work.<br />

Hon. R. A. DALLA-RIVA (Minister for<br />

Employment and Industrial Relations) — As I said<br />

before, the advice I have, and Ms Pennicuik may not<br />

like it, is that it is a matter <strong>of</strong> the agreements that are in<br />

operation between the employees and the employers,<br />

and the instrument that underpins that is the<br />

commonwealth’s Fair Work Act 2009. It may be a<br />

modern award, an enterprise agreement or some other<br />

instrument. I cannot add any more to what I have said.<br />

Ms PENNICUIK (Southern Metropolitan) — I am<br />

loath to ask this again, but I ask the minister this simple

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