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Privacy and Injunctions - Evidence - Parliament

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Rt Hon Dominic Grieve QC MP, Attorney General—Oral evidence (QQ 1070–1102)<br />

They may have been in contempt of court, but the question arises whether it is in the public<br />

interest in criminal cases to use the rather more draconian sanction to prosecute them for<br />

contempt. I do not really see them as being a separate category of individual or organisation<br />

that might commit a contempt, although clearly when looking at national newspapers with<br />

large-scale circulations, certainly in the case of criminal contempt, they have an<br />

acknowledged responsibility, of which they are well aware, about how they conduct their<br />

affairs, <strong>and</strong> I expect them to maintain high st<strong>and</strong>ards.<br />

That said, as I have made quite clear on a number of occasions, certainly in criminal<br />

contempt, individuals who decide to tweet or blog in defiance of orders had better beware,<br />

because one day somebody will end up being prosecuted <strong>and</strong> will discover to their<br />

consternation that there are quite severe sanctions that can be visited upon them for what<br />

they have done.<br />

Q1077 Lord Dobbs: That is very interesting. Some witnesses have thrown up<br />

their h<strong>and</strong>s in horror <strong>and</strong> said, “It’s so difficult that there is nothing we can really do about<br />

it”, which is not something to which I personally adhere. To what extent does the<br />

jurisdictional question cause you problems? We have had before us very substantial, largescale<br />

bloggers who say, “It doesn’t matter what you guys do. We’re going to take ourselves<br />

off to another jurisdiction <strong>and</strong> stick up two fingers at you.”<br />

Mr Grieve: I accept it is possible. It was always possible to publish a newspaper in<br />

the United States or another jurisdiction which contained material that might be in<br />

contempt of court. Somebody could, even inadvertently, bring it in as part of their luggage<br />

<strong>and</strong> it might be circulated. It would be very difficult to bring proceedings against those<br />

individuals, so in a sense the modern problem with bloggers <strong>and</strong> tweeters is not really all<br />

that different. Clearly, there is an issue about enforcement, but the fact enforcement may<br />

be a bit more difficult <strong>and</strong> there may be instances where you cannot do anything about it<br />

does not mean the power has no merit. After all, if you decide to blog in the United States<br />

in defiance of court orders <strong>and</strong> you are identified, maybe there is nothing I can do about it,<br />

but if the person ever visits the United Kingdom, or certainly Engl<strong>and</strong> <strong>and</strong> Wales, there<br />

might well be.<br />

Ultimately, trying to maintain a balance in this area is not to my mind dependent on<br />

running around <strong>and</strong> showing that you have a 100% success rate, but showing that the<br />

enforcement process <strong>and</strong>, dare I say, the dialogue with people to persuade those who might<br />

be minded to do this that it is not in the public interest are sufficiently successful that this<br />

sort of behaviour is at least being reasonably deterred so that the justice system can<br />

function properly.<br />

Lord Dobbs: That is refreshing <strong>and</strong> reassuring.<br />

Q1078 Martin Horwood: One of the problems with social media, in particular<br />

Facebook <strong>and</strong> Twitter, is that you can have an original breach of an injunction or superinjunction<br />

by the person who sets up a Facebook group, or does the first tweet on a<br />

subject, but then potentially you have tens of thous<strong>and</strong>s, perhaps even millions, of people<br />

who “like” the Facebook group, re-tweet, or even do subsequent tweets <strong>and</strong> who, almost<br />

by definition, cannot have any knowledge of the super-injunction <strong>and</strong> may be doing the same<br />

as a newspaper does when it puts something in quotation marks. For instance, if there was<br />

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