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Privacy and Injunctions - Evidence - Parliament

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Rt Hon Dominic Grieve QC MP, Attorney General—Oral evidence (QQ 1070–1102)<br />

promoted anarchy behind parliamentary privilege it would be quite a funny thing for<br />

<strong>Parliament</strong> to do because at some point it would come back <strong>and</strong> hit us.<br />

Q1098 George Eustice: I want to develop the specific point about the idea of a<br />

conspiracy effectively circumventing a super-injunction. If, for instance, a newspaper<br />

deliberately gave details of a super-injunction to a Member of <strong>Parliament</strong> with a view to that<br />

MP planting a question or making a speech in <strong>Parliament</strong> so it could then report the<br />

proceedings, in that situation would you regard that newspaper as having acted with malice?<br />

Mr Grieve: It is the old danger of the hypothetical question, but it seems to me at<br />

least to set the preconditions in which malice would be occurring, for obvious reasons. It<br />

would be done with the deliberate intention of circumventing a court order, but each case<br />

would have to be looked at on its own facts.<br />

Q1099 George Eustice: Some of the evidence we received from bloggers, for<br />

example, described a process in which if certain journalists on newspapers did not feel they<br />

could get a story past their own editors <strong>and</strong> solicitors they said, “Let’s get it out in the<br />

blogosphere; give it to bloggers so they can print it <strong>and</strong> then we can report it after the<br />

event.” In that situation, whom would you regard as being liable for that conspiracy? Is it<br />

the blogger who has knowingly produced it or the newspaper that has knowingly put it out?<br />

Mr Grieve: Potentially, if both acted with knowledge, both of them would be, but<br />

clearly the person who started the process in breach of a court order which he knows<br />

applies to his organisation is taking a very serious step. He is the one who has actually let<br />

the cat out of the bag, but each case must turn on its own facts. These cases have to be<br />

proved, <strong>and</strong> that is often a different matter from what may or may not have happened.<br />

Q1100 Lord Black of Brentwood: Bearing in mind the point you have quite<br />

rightly made that you may not always be the right one to enforce privacy injunctions, are<br />

there any particular reforms of the contempt of court laws or practice, including possible<br />

punishments, that you think might assist in ensuring enforcement in this area? One example<br />

might be whether there is need for greater clarity on the ability to bring proceedings where<br />

there has been a form of jigsaw identification.<br />

Mr Grieve: The penalties for contempt are pretty extensive; indeed, in some<br />

circumstances they can be draconian. The Law Commission is shortly to look at the way in<br />

which contempt of court works more generally. I am rather content to leave it to the Law<br />

Commission to do a detailed examination. Most of my work is in the field of contempt<br />

concerning criminal cases. Do I feel that I have the tools to do the job? For the most part,<br />

yes, in terms of the ability to bring cases to court. It is a slightly unusual jurisdiction, <strong>and</strong><br />

there may be some issues the Law Commission should look at in terms of process. The<br />

penalties are not for me anyway; they are for the judiciary, but it strikes me on any<br />

examination that there is a wide range of penalties which can be very serious.<br />

Q1101 The Lord Bishop of Chester: In your lecture in December, which we<br />

enjoyed reading, you gave a series of cases where things had gone seriously wrong in many<br />

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