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Privacy and Injunctions - Evidence - Parliament

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Max Mosley, Steve Coogan, Zac Goldsmith MP <strong>and</strong> Hugh Grant—Oral evidence (QQ 697–<br />

753)<br />

Q750 Chairman: Which in your own case was the defence of the newspapers for<br />

the dummy first edition. They argued that it was not to prevent you from obtaining an<br />

injunction but to prevent another Sunday tabloid stealing the story.<br />

Max Mosley: That was exactly what they said. Needless to say, that fell to pieces in<br />

cross-examination. When the editor came before the Culture, Media <strong>and</strong> Sport Committee,<br />

he admitted, as did Dacre, that it was to avoid my injuncting them, as he called it. We all<br />

know that was the reason.<br />

Hugh Grant: I think the business of laundering stories needs to be mentioned once<br />

again. Newspapers would find a way round the law. It may be that an arbitrator, regulator<br />

or indeed a judge says it is against the public interest <strong>and</strong> they cannot publish it. All they<br />

have to do is slip it to a magazine in America. That magazine publishes it <strong>and</strong> then they<br />

report on that American magazine. They can do the same with the internet. It is a cunning<br />

common strategy.<br />

Max Mosley: We could stop that.<br />

Q751 George Eustice: I want to turn to the idea of a new independent regulator.<br />

First, is it your view that that would be in addition to other legal remedies, or do you think<br />

we should go the way that people like Hugh Tomlinson have suggested <strong>and</strong> make it a<br />

requirement that people should go through the arbitration system rather than the courts?<br />

Second, is there a possibility of incentivising newspapers <strong>and</strong> perhaps blogs to join such a<br />

kitemark-type scheme if it gave them some protection <strong>and</strong> they would not then be sued<br />

further down the track?<br />

Max Mosley: I think there would be a powerful case for saying that everyone has to<br />

go to it <strong>and</strong> that defamation or privacy is dealt with in this way, not by the courts. There<br />

would probably have to be some form of appeal on difficult points of law <strong>and</strong> things of that<br />

kind to make sure there is justice. Fundamentally, that would seem to me to be the way to<br />

go, but that is a very big question <strong>and</strong> one that I think would be discussed. If it were decided<br />

to go in this direction, there would need to be a lot of discussion about whether that would<br />

be the right way. My personal view is that everybody would sacrifice a degree of certainty in<br />

litigation in return for the entire world being able to use these remedies free of charge.<br />

Q752 Mr Bradshaw: You are people who have put your heads above the parapet.<br />

I would be interested to hear whether you think you have suffered any negative personal<br />

consequences as a result <strong>and</strong> whether there have been any compensating positive<br />

consequences.<br />

Hugh Grant: Anyone will tell you that it has always been the case that, if you take<br />

legal action against a tabloid newspaper or dare criticise it, it will take a terrible revenge<br />

against you. We have seen a lot of that recently, especially with the Leveson Inquiry coming<br />

up. That is inevitable. For myself, I still think it is worth taking a st<strong>and</strong>. I emphasise what I<br />

said at the beginning: it is not just me whingeing about my privacy, although if you find a<br />

burglar in your house you are likely to whinge. I really care about the people close to me—<br />

my friends, relatives <strong>and</strong> people I work with—having their privacy invaded, <strong>and</strong> I really care<br />

about British citizens, particularly vulnerable ones who perhaps have been victims of trauma<br />

or murder, etc, on a regular basis having their privacy stolen for commercial profit.<br />

Although it is not pleasant to be monstered, I feel this campaign is the right thing to do.<br />

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