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Privacy and Injunctions - Evidence - Parliament

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Richard Desmond, chairman, Northern & Shell Network Ltd, Paul Ashford, Editorial<br />

Director, Northern & Shell Network Ltd, <strong>and</strong> Hugh Whittow, editor, Daily Express—Oral<br />

evidence (QQ 584–696)<br />

Richard Desmond: It is quite an insulting question.<br />

Paul Ashford: Even if you think of your own self-interest, your reputation as a<br />

newspaper of 100 years st<strong>and</strong>ing is far more important. Your long-term reputation is far<br />

more important than the sales of a few issues.<br />

Q554 Yasmin Qureshi: When your newspaper was publishing the stuff it published about<br />

the McCanns, it turned out to be complete lies. How are you able to say that your<br />

newspaper has a 100-year-old reputation to protect?<br />

Paul Ashford: The reputation is the first consideration. We have been advised it is<br />

inappropriate to go into detail about the McCanns because we have to give evidence to the<br />

Leveson Inquiry, <strong>and</strong> we are supposed not to anticipate it here.<br />

Q555 Yasmin Qureshi: I am not going to discuss the details of the McCanns case or the<br />

Leveson Inquiry. Your newspaper paid over £500,000 to them, <strong>and</strong> from what the McCanns<br />

themselves have said to the Inquiry, a lot of the stuff published in the newspaper was<br />

completely wrong, <strong>and</strong> also the diary being published.<br />

Hugh Whittow: We did not print the diary.<br />

Q556 Yasmin Qureshi: Sorry, my mistake about the diary. You were saying in answer to<br />

Ben’s question about the reputation of newspapers, <strong>and</strong> you do not look at profit.<br />

Richard Desmond: We made mistakes, which I certainly apologised for <strong>and</strong> the<br />

newspaper apologised for. There was no hesitation about apologising. We put it on the<br />

front page; we did not try to hide the mistakes that we made, <strong>and</strong> we paid out very quickly.<br />

We made a terrible mistake.<br />

Paul Ashford: We were asked very clearly whether we make a financial calculation<br />

based on whether we could make more money by selling newspapers <strong>and</strong> paying off the<br />

costs than not running the stories. Well, that calculation is never made; it is not what we<br />

do. I st<strong>and</strong> by what I said: your reputation is paramount.<br />

Q557 Mr Bradshaw: Does that mean that the financial viability of the press is not a<br />

relevant consideration when talking about or considering the public interest?<br />

Paul Ashford: Your financial viability in the long term is absolutely linked to this<br />

question of reputation <strong>and</strong> trust. Because, yes, you might sell more newspapers with one<br />

particular story taking a particular angle, but in the long term people are not going to trust<br />

you <strong>and</strong> they are not going to buy you.<br />

Richard Desmond: Sorry to be a bore, but in 1975 we took the decision to publish<br />

this story about the Marshall amplifier because ultimately all you have is your reputation.<br />

That is not to say that during many years of our music magazines, etc, we may have got it<br />

wrong. If we had got it wrong—I can’t think of an instance but—<br />

Paul Ashford: The Rol<strong>and</strong> bass guitar. We said its neck was too heavy. We were<br />

wrong about that.<br />

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