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Privacy and Injunctions - Evidence - Parliament

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Richard Caseby, Group Managing Editor, News Group Newspapers, Dominic Mohan, editor,<br />

The Sun, <strong>and</strong> Justin Walford, Editorial Legal Counsel, News Group Newspapers—Oral<br />

evidence (QQ 1511–1593)<br />

readers to look at what is being said on the internet. As a result, this person’s name<br />

becomes more <strong>and</strong> more widely spread, to such an extent that at some stage you take a<br />

decision that you may as well publish his name in the newspaper because it is now in the<br />

public domain <strong>and</strong> no one can complain—a bit like breaching the injunction ordered by the<br />

judge because the name was mentioned in <strong>Parliament</strong>. Is that the sort of thing that your<br />

newspaper does?<br />

Justin Walford: No. I do not think any newspaper could make a decision that there<br />

was enough material in the public domain that they would now just—<br />

Q1577 Lord Gold: No, you are picking up on the last bit. Start at the beginning on<br />

whether you followed it through in the hope that in due course you would be allowed to<br />

publish the story.<br />

Richard Caseby: That has not been done with any intention like that. In a way, the<br />

same argument could have been used a generation ago. When I was on The Sunday Times<br />

there was the “Spycatcher” book; I don’t know whether you remember it at all. It was<br />

published, I think, in New Zeal<strong>and</strong>.<br />

Lord Thomas of Gresford: Australia.<br />

Richard Caseby: I am sorry; Australia. It was a very old-fashioned form of social<br />

media, in a way; it was out there, in the public domain, in another part of the world.<br />

Eventually, The Sunday Times published it.<br />

Q1578 Lord Thomas of Gresford: I do not think you are quite grasping the<br />

point. It is circular, isn’t it? You encourage people to look at Twitter, then you say, “Well,<br />

it’s out.” You go to the court <strong>and</strong> you ask the judge to reverse the injunction that has been<br />

served on you. So in the space of about two days you have got that name on your front<br />

page, because you have encouraged people to look at Twitter.<br />

Dominic Mohan: Surely we are not encouraging censorship of reporting things that<br />

are being discussed on Twitter by millions of people. That would be quite draconian.<br />

Q1579 Lord Thomas of Gresford: Was the injunction served on The Sun, as a<br />

matter of interest, in the case of Ryan Giggs?<br />

Justin Walford: Yes, the injunction was served; there is no dispute about that. I can<br />

see where you are going with this: if you like, you bring about the application you can make<br />

to court to put it to one side. I do not think that actually happened, however.<br />

Q1580 Lord Thomas of Gresford: I have quoted the passage from the<br />

newspaper, which seems to suggest that that is exactly what happened.<br />

Justin Walford: What happened was that we picked up on—as did Fleet Street as a<br />

whole; it was not just The Sun—major discussions that were already on Twitter. It was not a<br />

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