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Privacy and Injunctions - Evidence - Parliament

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Press Complaints Commission, Ofcom, <strong>and</strong> Authority for Television on Dem<strong>and</strong>—Oral<br />

evidence (QQ 754–818)<br />

Q778 Lord Gold: I should like to ask a question about how the PCC works. We<br />

had complaints—I think you were here earlier—that the members of the board are editors<br />

of newspapers. Do they allow you as director just to get on with it, or do they make<br />

decisions on balance?<br />

Steven Abell: That is a good point <strong>and</strong> it is worth clarifying. There are 17 members<br />

of the Commission, of whom 10 are public members independently appointed with no<br />

connection with the newspaper industry, <strong>and</strong> seven are editors. No editor is involved in any<br />

judgment about his paper, a sister paper or a related paper. They physically leave the room<br />

<strong>and</strong> do not have any say in the matter, or even get any information about it. The office, of<br />

which I am the head, prepares the papers <strong>and</strong> drafts for them to debate <strong>and</strong> consider, but<br />

ultimately it reflects the will of the Commission in regard to decisions. Decisions are taken<br />

corporately by the Press Complaints Commission, which is a body with 10 lay members <strong>and</strong><br />

seven editors.<br />

Q779 Mr Bradshaw: Who appoints those 10 lay members?<br />

Steven Abell: It is a nominations committee of the Press Complaints Commission.<br />

There are three lay members with an independent assessor who comes in to monitor the<br />

process.<br />

Q780 Mr Bradshaw: Could you send us the CVs of the 10 lay members?<br />

Steven Abell: It is clearly set out on our website.<br />

Q781 Ms Stuart: In relation to the PCC specifically, to what extent are you<br />

hampered by the fact that not all newspapers subscribe to it? I want to quote part of a<br />

written submission from Private Eye: “The short answer to why Private Eye has not subscribed<br />

to the PCC is that it has not made sense for it to do so. The PCC has lacked independence<br />

from the newspaper industry; Private Eye has not needed the PCC, either to set editorial<br />

st<strong>and</strong>ards or to help us resolve complaints”. What do you say in response to that?<br />

Steven Abell: I think the question of whether newspapers are members is a very<br />

significant one. On the other side, the converged world that we are entering into suggests<br />

to me that there is a universality of people who act in the manner of newspapers, ie they<br />

produce content that people read. It is now a very broad church that covers people<br />

tweeting, bloggers, Facebook <strong>and</strong> all sorts of other things. The notion of absolute<br />

universality is, I think, deeply problematic. On the flip side, should national newspapers in<br />

particular be members of the system, either the PCC, or a reformed body? Absolutely. I<br />

think it causes a problem. The solution to that is to incentivise membership. Once people<br />

become members they are locked in via a compact or contract for a significant period. I<br />

think all of this is answerable. At the moment, the voluntary nature of the PCC gives it<br />

certain other powers, for example pre-publication work, because people co-operate with<br />

that. That is quite successful. The voluntary aspect has some benefits, but it has that serious<br />

flaw within it. I think the answer to that question is a system that is slightly better<br />

incentivised <strong>and</strong> locks in people.<br />

954

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