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COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE PEACE MOVEMENT 2169<br />

Mrs. Chesman. I question <strong>the</strong> authority of this committee to require<br />

me to answer. I don't understand its pert<strong>in</strong>ency to this <strong>in</strong>quiry<br />

and I <strong>in</strong>voke at this time my privilege under <strong>the</strong> fifth amendment.<br />

Mr. Doyle. Were you present yesterday, Mrs. Chesman, when I<br />

read <strong>the</strong> prelim<strong>in</strong>ary statement?<br />

Mrs. Chesman. I was present,<br />

Mr. Doyle. You heard <strong>the</strong> statement read?<br />

Mrs. Chesman. I did.<br />

Mr. Doyle. Thank you.<br />

Mr. Bruce. Mr. Chairman, I th<strong>in</strong>k it might be well to pursue <strong>the</strong><br />

po<strong>in</strong>t just <strong>for</strong> a moment.<br />

I th<strong>in</strong>k we better make it clear that your sentiment regard<strong>in</strong>g your<br />

feel<strong>in</strong>gs as to <strong>the</strong> jurisdiction of this committee, or its function, is <strong>in</strong><br />

no way connected with your plead<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> privilege of <strong>the</strong> fifth amendment.<br />

You are plead<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> privilege of <strong>the</strong> fifth amendment on <strong>the</strong><br />

basis of not be<strong>in</strong>g required to <strong>in</strong>crim<strong>in</strong>ate yourself. Am I correct?<br />

Mrs. Chesman. I would ra<strong>the</strong>r restate that. I am tak<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> fifth<br />

amendment because <strong>the</strong> fifth amendment protects <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>nocent<br />

aga<strong>in</strong>st testify<strong>in</strong>g aga<strong>in</strong>st <strong>the</strong>mselves, and of course I am protest<strong>in</strong>g<br />

<strong>the</strong> authority of this committee on those grounds, to answer <strong>the</strong><br />

question.<br />

Mr. Bruce, This is not why you are not answer<strong>in</strong>g <strong>the</strong> question.<br />

It is, ra<strong>the</strong>r, <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>crim<strong>in</strong>ation clause of <strong>the</strong> fifth amendment?<br />

Mrs. Chesman. I would say both.<br />

Mr. Doyle. I th<strong>in</strong>k I heard you say to protect <strong>the</strong> <strong>in</strong>nocent. As<br />

I understand that amendment, it protects anybody from testify<strong>in</strong>g<br />

aga<strong>in</strong>st oneself.<br />

I am not mak<strong>in</strong>g that observation except that I noticed jou used<br />

<strong>the</strong> word "<strong>in</strong>nocent" <strong>the</strong>re.<br />

Mrs. Chesman. This is my primary concern.<br />

Mr. Doyle. All right. Do you th<strong>in</strong>k that if <strong>the</strong> relevancy and<br />

pert<strong>in</strong>ency of this question was expla<strong>in</strong>ed to you aga<strong>in</strong>, <strong>in</strong> addition<br />

to <strong>the</strong> read<strong>in</strong>g of <strong>the</strong> prelim<strong>in</strong>ary statement yesterday, you <strong>the</strong>n<br />

would answer <strong>the</strong> question?<br />

(Witness conferred with counsel.)<br />

Mrs. Chesman. Upon consider<strong>in</strong>g your question I still feel that<br />

I would like to stand on my protection under <strong>the</strong> fifth amendment<br />

as I previously stated.<br />

Mr. Doyle. I thank you.<br />

Mr. NiTTLE. Did you participate <strong>in</strong> <strong>the</strong> organization of <strong>the</strong> East<br />

Bronx group to which you referred?<br />

Mrs. Chesman. In a vague k<strong>in</strong>d of way. You know, I th<strong>in</strong>k one<br />

of <strong>the</strong> difficulties here is that it is hard <strong>for</strong> men to understand that<br />

women can work <strong>in</strong> a very vague and nebulous way, and I th<strong>in</strong>k<br />

I am sympa<strong>the</strong>tic to you <strong>in</strong> that.<br />

Mr. NiTTLE. Yes. Mrs. Chesman, I hand you a copy of <strong>the</strong><br />

National Guardian, issue of October 8, 1962, marked <strong>for</strong> identification<br />

as Chesman Exhibit No. 1, and direct your attention to a lead article<br />

which appears on page 6 entitled "Pressure on <strong>the</strong> Candidates<br />

<strong>Women</strong> of Peace <strong>movement</strong> turn<strong>in</strong>g to political action." I quote<br />

from <strong>the</strong> article so that you will follow as I read it. Then I will ask<br />

you a question perta<strong>in</strong><strong>in</strong>g to this.<br />

"In and around New York on Oct. 3, several hundred women were<br />

to assemble at shopp<strong>in</strong>g centers and on busy street corners"<br />

93367—63 9<br />

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