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2068 COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE PEACE MOVEMENT Mr. Doyle. Mr, Richard Flink, will you please rise and be sworn? Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Mr. Flink. I do. TESTIMONY OF RICHARD A. FUNK Mr. NiTTLE. Would you state your full name and residence for the record, please? Mr. Flink. Richard A. Flink, 155-24 84th Street, Howard Beach 14, N.Y. Mr. NiTTLE. Would you state the date and place of your birth? Mr. Flink. March 1, 1935, in New York City. Mr. NiTTLE. Would you relate the extent of your formal education and training? Mr. Flink. I graduated from Stuyvesant High School in New York City in 1951, from Brandeis University in 1955. I took postgraduate work during 1955-56, graduated from New York University Law School in 1959, received my master of laws degree from New York University Law School in 1962. Mr. NiTTLE. What is your present occupation, Mr. Flink? Mr. Flink. I am an attorney, a member of the New York bar. Mr. NiTTLE. Last September, the Attorney General issued an announcement concerning the attempted enlistment by two Soviet employees of the United Nations of one Richard A. Flink in a Soviet intelligence or espionage apparatus. This was widely rejjorted in the press. You are the Richard A. Flink to whom the Attorney General referred, are you not? Mr. Flink. Yes, sir. Mr. NiTTLE. When you were first contacted by a Soviet agent in 1959, according to reports, did you not, as a loyal and patriotic citizen, report the incident to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and thereafter cooperate fully with your Government in this experience? Mr. Flink. Yes, sir. Mr. NiTTLE. Mr. Flink, the committee reahzes from prior contact with you that you possess considerable information of interest to it and the American people concerning Soviet espionage tactics. That account, however, is not directly related to this inquiry, and we will not pursue the matter in any detail now. But you did learn from Soviet agents Mishukov and Zaitsev other things that are pertinent to this hearing, and it is about these matters that we would like to receive your testimony. Will you tell us when you were first approached by Soviet agent Yuri A. Mishukov? Mr. Flink. I was first approached during the summer of 1959, subsequent to a meeting with two other Soviets, which was a casual meeting resulting in an invitation to visit the Soviet Trade Fair which was taking place in New York City at that time, and subsequently met with Mishukov at a cocktail party in New York City. Mr. NiTTLE. Did Mishukov continue his contacts vnth you, after that first meeting at a cocktail party in New York City? Mr. Flink. Yes, sir. About a month and a half or 2 months later, I was contacted by phone by Mishukov, who asked me if I would care to have lunch with him.
COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES IN THE PEACE MOVEMENT 2069 At that time I didn't exactly want to meet Mishukov, although I didn't want to be discourteous, and so I set a tentative appointment with him and I went down to see somebody whom I know at the U.S. attorney's office where I had worked. In a conversation with the U.S. attorney, I then called the Bureau, which asked me if I would meet with Mishukov, see what he wanted, and report back to them, which I did. Mr. NiTTLE. Will you tell us about the subsequent contacts with Mishukov? Mr. Flink. During the succeeding 3 years, I meet with Mishukov on various occasions. Our meetings were usually held—although there were times when there were breaks—on an average of twice a month. Most of these meetings were devoted to social, philosophical, ideological discussions. Mr. NiTTLE. Now, would you tell us in substance what those discussions were? Mr. Flink. Primarily, Mishukov and myself built up a so-called friendly relationship, predicated primarily on our mutual desire for peace. At the time when I first met Mishukov, he was married, as he told me, and had a young child, and his greatest desire was that we have peace in the world. I agreed with him, and our relationship then built up from there. Primarily, our initial discussions dealt with my attitude towards the Soviet people, towards the Soviet Union, towards Premier Khrushchev's good-will tour in the United States. As it developed, we went from the realm of ideology, as we had been discussing communism, Marxism, Leninism, we then proceeded on to topics of more current interest, such as disarmament, increased trade, and areas related to these fields. Mr. NiTTLE. During the course of your discussions on the subject of disarmament and related fields, what did Mishukov tell you? Mr. Flink. Well, basically, my relationship with IMishukov was a very frustrating one. I was in a position where I had to listen and not antagonize Mishukov or seem as if I was probing for answers, and Mishukov seemed to always bring the discussion around to topics such as disarmament. When we would discuss disarmament, Mishukov's primary feeling on this subject was that the United States did not genumely want disarmament, that disarmament was only an interest of the Soviet Union, and his reasons for stating this were as follows: Disarmament, in Mishukov's view, could only be achieved where a planned economy was present. The Soviet Union had a planned economy and, therefore, by government planning of the means of production, disarmament could be achieved at any time. The United States, in Mishukov's view, did not genuinely want disarmament, because disarmament could not be achieved under our system, primarily because we did not have government planning, and disarmament would, therefore, be left in the hands of private industrialists who could or could not, at their own will, choose to disarm or choose to continue with peaceful production. Mishukov, likewise, was of the opinion that the industrialists were pushing the Government to continue munitions contracts, military contracts, and that it was in the interest of both the Government and
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