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Rust; if it comes after record number, it’s fromthe actual label.)Daisy Martin, 8/1/21, OKeh 8009. (label “HowLong? How Long? (Absent Blues)”; thisevidently a different song--label sayscomposer is ? Everett White)Alberta Brown, 4/25/28, Columbia 14321-D.(label just “How Long,” no credit)Leroy Carr, 6/19/28, Banner 32557, Perfect215, Vocalion 1191 (label is How Long -How Long Blues, by Carr); 12/19/28,Vocalion 1241 (label is 5 words, no comma,credit Carr); 12/20/28, Vocalion 1279 (labelis 5 words, no comma)Benson Orch (5 words, no comma), 8/31/28 ,OKeh 8612.Sonny Porter, 10/5/28, Columbia 14366-D.(label “How Long — How Long Blues”; nocredit)Walter Barnes RoyalCreolians, 12/14/28,Brunswick 4187 (label 5 words, no comma,credit Carr)Tampa Red’s Hokum Jug Band (5 words, nocomma), 1/16/29, Vocalion 1258.Jed Davenport (5 words no comma), 9/19/29,Vocalion 1440, Supertone S-2229.Red Nichols, 6/11/31, Brunswick 6160 (label 5words, no comma, credit Carr), 01213, A-9117.Boots & His Buddies (in two parts), pt 18/14/35, Bluebird B-6132; pt 2 2/25/36,Bluebird B-6301 (label How Long? - part 2,no credit).Count Basie, 11/9/38, Decca 2355, Brunswick02762 (label 3 words, credit ARMSTRONG!)et al.; again 6/24/39, Vocalion 5010 (label 3words, credit Rushing-Basie!; again 7/24/42,Columbia 36710 (label 3 words, creditCARR).Peter Johnson (as How Long, How Long),4/16/39, Solo Art 12004, Circle J-1049.Jimmy Yancey (3 words), 4/39, Riverside RLP-1062 (LP) et al.Wingy Manone (3 words), 9/6/39, Bluebird B-10749.Varsity Seven, 1/15/40, Varsity 8173 (label 5words, comma, credit Carr-Williams), Elite5032 (5 words, no comma, no credit) et al.First recording 1921 (although that turned outto be another song), so I started looking forcopyright reg. that year. Nothing 1921-24.Found “How Long Blues” by Ted Nixon in1925. First Leroy Carr hit came in 1928:(1928)How long blues; words and music by LeroyCarr and J. M. Williams. [Words and melodyonly] © 1 c. Aug. 23, 1928; E 704111; Statestreet music pub. co., Chicago.(1929a)How long, how long blues; no. 3, by LeroyCarr, music by Leroy Carr and J. M.Williams. [Words and melody only] © 1 c.Feb. 13, 1929 E unp. 3712; State streetmusic pub. co., inc., Chicago.(1929b)How long how long blues; words and musicby Leroy Carr. [Words and melody only] © 1c. Aug. 1, 1929; E unp. 9438; State streetmusic pub. co., inc., Chicago.What are we to make of this? If the first 1929entry was no. 3, where was no. 2? In 1929b,did Carr revise it and remove the notes that J.Mayo Williams had contributed? That’s nutty.(No further entries through 1935)There’s a Leroy Carr specialty site on the webat www.wirz.de/music/carrfrm.htmSUMMARY:Obviously, there’s ammunition here for everyconceivable permutation on the title, and forcomposer credit of Carr-Williams or just Carr.But we do have evidence to push us gently(certainly not forcefully) toward How LongHow Long Blues by Carr: (1) That was thefinal copyrighted version, and (2) That was theversion on two out of three of Carr’s ownrecordings of it (at least the ones we can findlabels for).How Many Times? (Irving Berlin)Bob Pelland & Bob Pilsbury 1212Confirmed by 5/20/26 copyright reg., but noquestion marks or exclamation points incopyright books. Couldn’t find a copyrightpage, but cover and all the collection indexeshave the ? HSM has the ?How ’Ya Gonna Keep ’em Down onthe Farm? (After They’ve SeenParee) (Walter Donaldson–Sam M. Lewis–Joe Young)Ingham–Grosz Hot Cosmopolites 1237Down Home JB 1264Aha! On the cover the question mark comesafter “Paree” in the subtitle, but on thecopyright page, it’s the way we have it, after“Farm.” w. SML-JY/m. WD, Waterson, Berlin &Snyder, 1919.Howdy! (Buck Evans)Brahmin Bellhops 1305See the note about Evans at Blue Bungalow.Turns out that all 19 tracks on 1305 werewritten by Evans, who played piano on thesession.How’m I Gonna Do It (If I Don’tKnow What It Is That You Crave)(Bob Helm–Weldon Kees)Down Home JB 1217Rec. by Helm’s Riverside Roustabouts on 8October 54 for issue on Riverside RLP 2510.[This LP issued in England on London H-APB1039 in 1955.] A note on the DJML says thatall the tracks on this LP were Helmcompositions. Found the cover on eBay.Looks like might have been 10" LP, coverblurb says, “The San Francisco clarinet starplays his own jazz compositions with EverettFarey, cornet; Hank Ross, piano; BobThompson, washboard; Bill Stanley, bass.Text notes that “Ev Farey wrote an eight-piecearrangement of the tune and recorded it withhis Bay City Jazz Band for Good Time Jazz in1956.”Amazingly, found a copyright reg.:HOW’M I GONNA DO IT, IF I DON’T KNOWWHAT IT IS THAT YOU CRAVE; w & m RobertHelm & Weldon Kees (c) ContemporaryMusic, a division of Good Time Jazz RecordCo., Inc. 1Aug56 EU448798.Obviously, this copyright filed in conjunctionwith the 1956 version. I did not find anythingin the 1955-56 books.Huggin’ and Chalkin’ [A Huggin’and A Chalkin’] (Clancy Hayes–Kermit Goell)Bob Schulz & His Frisco JB 1288I have it by Tarnished Six as "A Huggin’ and aChalkin’"; by Bob Scobey (on reissue CD) as"Huggin’ and a Chalkin’"; by Southern Comfortas "Huggin’ and a-Chalkin’." Kinklealphabetizes under A, calling it "A-Huggin’ anda-Chalkin’" (date 1946).Erdos: Lissauer is probably mistaken; Hoagywrote and recorded his own similar songcalled "Huggin’ and Chalkin’" (no A’s). TheHayes-Goell song has the A’s.Baker: I find that very difficult to believe.Hoagy wouldn’t have to plagiarize; and Hayeswouldn’t dare plagiarize from somebody sowell known.Bruyninckx discography shows first recordingby Clancy Hayes Dixieland Band, Chicago,1960, for Audio Fidelity AFLP1937 as "Huggin’and Chalkin’."Great Song Thesaurus: Huggin’ and Chalkin’,1946, w/m Kermit Goell, Clarence LeonardHayes.Aha: Chris Tyle has the sheet music, reportsthat both the cover and copyright page show