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When You Walked OutSomeone Else Walked Right InConsidering all the other evidence, and factthat none of the online indexes treats thosefirst four words as a pre/subtitle, I’m going tobreak my usual ruls and leave it all one title.When You Were a Girl of Seven(Hudson “Tampa Red” Whittaker)Helm–Leigh Jazz & Blues Review 1331Rec. State Street Swingers, 10/1/36, Vocalion03347, Conqueror 8765.Confirmed by 9/2/36 unpub. copyright reg. byH. Whittaker (Hudson in index).When You Wish Upon a Star(Leigh Harline–Ned Washington)Jimmy Mazzy & Eli Newberger 1109ASM, 1941, Irving Berlin; w. Washington/m.Harline.When You Wore a Tulip and I Worea Big Red Rose (Percy Wenrich–Jack Mahoney)New Orleans Rascals 1113Ian Whitcomb & His Merry Bands 1276Aces of Rhythm 1372Canary Cottage Dance Orchestra 1415
Australian National Library indexes a copyshowing those credits and the “five mile”subtitle (but spelling it tuckerbox), but I thinkjust to be safe we’ll skip the subtitle here.1/16/14 revisit: Asked the redoubtable OzzieBill Haesler about this; as usual, he camethrough:The original sheet music (cover) is “Where theDog Sits on the Tuckerbox (5 Miles fromGundagai)” by Jack O’Hagan. (Although theactual plaque on that statue shows it“TUCKER BOX” with an obvious gap betweenthe words). “Nine Miles from Gundagai isactually a different song, composer unkown.And Alf is explained by, of all things, theAMERICAN copyright:Where the dog sits on the tuckerbox fivemiles from Gundagai ; w Alf [pseud. of JackO'Hagan], m J. O'Hagan. © July 7, 1938; Efor. 56014; Allan & co., pty. ltd., Melbourne,Australia.Where the River Shannon Flows(James I. Russell)Mahogany Hall Stompers 1221Where the Shy Little Violets Grow(Harry Warren–Gus Kahn)San Francisco Starlight Orchestra 1296ASM, 1928, Remick.Where the Sweet Forget-Me-NotsRemember (Harry Warren–Mort Dixon)John Gill’s Novelty Orchestra 1270ASM, 1929, Remick.Where’d You Get Those Eyes?(Walter Donaldson)San Francisco Starlight Orchestra 1364ASM, 1916, Leo Feist.Wherever There’s a Will, Baby(Don Redman)Back Bay Ramblers 1374Rec. McKinney’s Cotton Pickers, 11/7/29,Victor V-22736, Bluebird B-10249 et al.Oops, copyright is quite a bit different:Where ever there's a will, there's a way, mybaby; words and music by Donald Redman.© Jan. 11, 1929; 2 c. Jan. 15; E pub. 2690;Empire music co., New York.BUT the Victor label matches what we have. Ipresume that Victor rejected his overly longand cumbersome original title.Wher’m I Gonna Live?(Billy Ray Cyrus–Cindy Cyrus)Ernie Carson & the Castle JB 1277Confirmed by lotsa lyrics/music sites and anonline bio of Cyrus. Cindy was his wife 1986-91.While They Were Dancing Around(Joe McCarthy–James V. Monaco)Terry Waldo & Bo Grumpus 1339Confirmed by 12/20/13 copyright reg., w.JM/m. JVM, and by sheet music pub. byBroadway Music Corp.Oddly, Monaco copyrighted a piano score forit in 1914 in his name only.Whip Me with Plenty of Love(Clarence Williams–Louis Urquhart–J. Tim Brymn) (On 1058, 1170, and1410 the tune labeled Whip Me withPlenty of Love is really Worn OutBlues)Swedish Jazz Kings 11221122 showed it as Worn Out Blues by J.Rogalle.Rec. CW WB Band, 4/23/30, OKeh 8790,Odeon ONY-36083, Parlophone R-2203.Oops, copyright says Brymn, not Williams:Whip me with plenty of love; words andmelody by Lou Urquhart and Tim Brymn. ©1 c. May 29, 1930; E unp. 22592; ClarenceWilliams music pub. co., inc., New York.But I stumbled across a previous copyright ofit by Urquhart alone two years before:Whip me with a plenty [sic] of love; wordsand melody by Lew Urquhart [i. e. L. T.Urquhart]© 1 c. July 31, 1928; E 695761;Louis Thomas Urquhart, New York.Well, Parlophone R-2203 credited Williams-Urquhart. And the OKeh says Williams-Urquhart. All my other records and mostonline sources say CW-LU, but Jim Cullumradio show says CW-TB/LU.Guess I stick with CW-LU like the labels, butit’s sure troublesome, especially since it wasWilliams Music Pub. that filed the copyrightregistration adding Brymn to the credits. No,given that fact, I think I’m going to join Cullumin adding Brymn.HOWEVER, the composer credits for “WhipMe” are the least of our troubles. It turns outthat we’ve had the “Whip Me with Plenty ofLove” and “Worn Out Blues” titles reversed—they were the two sides of OKeh 8790,recorded at the same April 23, 1930, session.In a note to DJML a few years ago, Bill Haeslerdetailed this history of this mistake: At somepoint (probably 1950s), somebody noted that“Whip Me” was at slow tempo and “Worn Out”was fast tempo, and decided that the labelsmust have been reversed on the originalrecord (the same specious argument longapplied to Waller’s Minor Drag/Harlem Fuss).Subsequent reissues and new recordings ofthe tunes most often used “Whip Me” for thefast tune and “Worn Out” for the slow tune.The late Tom Lord (not the Jazz Discographyman) in his definitive 1976 bio-discography ofClarence Williams disputes the tune reversaltheory and cites Thornton Hagert (VernacularMusic Research), who managed to locate theLou Urguhart manuscript for "Whip Me withPlenty of Love" in the Library of Congress andstated in a letter dated March 1974, "comparisonwith the recording (mx 403972-A) indicatesthat the titles are NOT reversed."On Stomp Off, Jazz O’Maniacs and GrandDominion originally had it right, recording thefast tune as “Worn Out Blues” (which is whatwas on their LP covers), but at some point inthe history of this index, we moved them to“Whip Me” and put at note at “Worn Out”explaining that change. Thus we changedthose two from right to wrong, while all theother recordings of both tunes were wrongfrom the start, i.e., the Swedish Jazz Kings’“Worn Out Blues” should have been “WhipMe,” and the “Whip Me” versions by Hot Antic,European Classic, and One More Time shouldhave been “Worn Out Bues.”Dave Robinson confirmed Haesler’sassessment the next day, and confessed thathe too had been playing the fast tune asWhipe Me all these years.Whipped Cream (Percy Wenrich)Terry Waldo & Bo Grumpus 1339CD title was Whipped Cream Rag.Copyright isWhipped cream; a rag by Percy Wenrich; pf.[2179 © Jan. 18, 1913; 2 c. Jan. 23, 1913; E304279; Wenrich-Howard co., New York.Surprised I couldn’t find it in any onlinecollections, but found more than ampleevidence that title is “Whipped Cream,” with“Rag” or “A Rag” as a genremarker.Whipping the Keys (Sam Goold)Tony Caramia 1209Tony Caramia 1328ASM, 1923, Stark & Cowan.Whisper Sweet (James P. Johnson–Jo Trent)Blue Rhythmakers 1373Neville Dickie 1423
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6th editionWORKING DRAFT WITH NOTES
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Further background notes in case I
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Absolutely (Jabbo Smith)Grand Domin
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Ah-Ha! (James V. Monaco-Sidney Clar
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Zenith Hot Stompers 1248Black Eagle
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Tex’s original-looking 1920 sheet
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(this is not the popular Smith-Burr
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Barrel House Rag - Campbell hand-wr
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seen often both ways, so will chang
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Aug. 22, 1919; E 458166; Spencer Wi
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ecording was Bob Hudson. This may w
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Carroll Dickerson’s Savoy Orch, 5
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Al Dubin)Paul and His Gang 1329Bles
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“BLUE GOOSE”RAGThis says to me
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No composer credit on label. Chilto
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Lathair is the guy who worked in Ch
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Bouncing Around (Armand J. Piron-Pe
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Bright Star Blues (Armand J. Piron-
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Thought I Heard Buddy Bolden Say)."
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But fellow researchers out there, c
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Aha, LC cy catalog of 1929 says,Cal
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Did find the LC copyright:Candy lip
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Not in Rust. Ted des Plantes’ lin
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So it was copyrighted by Oliver alo
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Chicken Reel (Joseph M. Daly)Helm-L
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Kinkle shows it as "Ciribiribin (It
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Becket’s composition or followed
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ASM, 1931, Santly Bros.; w. AF/m. F
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John Gill reports 1/18/24 copyright
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Frankie Trumbauer aho, 6/24/31, Bru
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ut Bob says it never felt comfortab
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the second 32-bar theme is my own,
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’Deed I Do (Walter Hirsch-Fred Ro
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Rec. Moten 6/12/27, Victor 21199--a
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Why Bring That Up? Internet Movie D
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Rhodes: "’Get It Right’ = ‘Do
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At Bessie’s request, all of the c
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“Don’t Go ’Way Nobody,” a s
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migrated northward up the Mississip
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1915; 2 c. July 24, 1915; E 363546;
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Woode on two other titles. So obvio
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all four posibilities we’d have t
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Echoes from the Snowball Club(Harry
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Music by Sadie Koninsky, arranged b
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OH, hell. After all this I thought
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Farmerette (Jesse Greer)George Fole
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Firechief Rag (Danny Alguire)Smith-
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and cy page) (You’ll Miss Me in t
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Gambling Jack (Jelly Roll Morton)Pa
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and "Boy Friend." Kinkle agrees. It
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soul all human beings feel. That th
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Magnolia JB 1016Turk Murphy JB 1161
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Grandpa’s Spells (Jelly Roll Mort
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Waldo’s Jazz Entertainers 1377Con
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We’ve not included arrangers as c
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“Hello Montreal” (but surely it
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1903 sheet could mean that it’s a
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2013 review: We can do better than
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21, 1925; E 627852 Triangle music p
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Rust; if it comes after record numb
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Found sleeve cover for 45 on Pye-Vo
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Actually, it appears that the choru
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So far, still solidly in the “unk
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can find no evidence she ever did a
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tune attributed to Pecora, even und
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(Harry Woods-Billy Rose-Mort Dixon)
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Ponce, also pub. Ager, Yellen & Bor
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If Winter Comes (W. R. Williams-Joh
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Crawford set phrases chanted by Mar
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I’m All Bound ’Round with the M
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Telcon 8/28: OK, do the two = three
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Smith, an article titled “Jelly R
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2013 review: Rec.Clarence Williams
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Confirmed 8/18/36 copyright reg.In
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Alstyne-Williams] via your note of
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Benny Goodman-Jack Teagarden)State
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Jazz Baby (M. K. Jerome-Blanche Mer
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1915; E 372536; Will Rossiter, Chic
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For what it’s worth, Ellington’
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James D. Touchstone. The song's ope
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Online search found FAR more hits o
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Ondippermouth.blogspot.com/2012/11/
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2013 review: Confirmed by 11/26/23
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Confirmed by 4/10/35 copyright reg.
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Eureka, I finally found the instrum
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Let’s Have Another Cup of Coffee(
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Limehouse Blues (Philip Braham-Doug
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some mighty obscure evidence to the
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Keith Nichols Cotton Club Orchestra
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But copyright page isLow Bridge!
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Louisiana Repertory Jazz Ensemble 1
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document it. Ah: Thompson’s liner
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BUT notice alsoMarket Street Blues,
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James V. Monaco)Frederick Hodges 13
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Melancholy Stomp (Don Ewell)Europea
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(where’d he get that?), it was ar
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listing as an alternative title. Ho
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2013 review: It appears that I neve
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For Christ’s sake! Wikipedia has
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Steve Abrams: 1924 by Kapp-Coleman-
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More Than That (Ben Barnett-Clarenc
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Mule Walk, The [Mule Walk Stomp](Ja
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connection with the refrain. The ve
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Ray Smith: credit should go to Oliv
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My Man o’ War (Andy Razaf-Spencer
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Dan Levinson’s Roof Garden JB 136
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Never Again (Isham Jones-Gus Kahn)P
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New Orleans wiggle; by Peter Bocage
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Turk: "That was a tune called '1919
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Norfolk Church Street Sobbin’ Blu
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Oh, baby; from Rain or shine, words
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2013 review: Found the copyright:O
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Rec. Sharkey Bonano, 1/29/37, Vocal
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earliest example I know of that use
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West Jesmond Rhythm Kings 1255All S
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2013 review: Couldn’t find anythi
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Paddle-wheelin’ Along (A Sacramen
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Rosa Henderson, 8/26, Banner 18892*
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and in parens), credits Raye-Shaver
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The Commodore reissue of all the la
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(Sidney Bechet-Rousseau Simmons)Pam
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Porcupine Rag (Charles L. Johnson)R
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Ray Smith 1162Promenade aux Champs-
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Rag Time ChimesWell, very clear on
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Oops, not in copyright books 1929-3
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But Kassel had many other copyright
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Hodges, but the Black Berries Oriol
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Alabama Red Peppers, 4/28, Cameo 82
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But wait: I remember that I have BG
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Moulin à café as alt. title, of c
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Sadness Will Be Gladness(Wingy Mano
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Found sheet music at U. Maine, conf
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with arr. for guit., etc. © Oct. 1
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The Bluebird ODJB 75th Anniversary
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ig questions is this: Is she singin
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Shine on Your Shoes, A(Arthur Schwa
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[also published in song versionwith
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Skit-dat-de-dat; melody by Lillian
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Abrams follow-up: I had this record
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she were a composer, she’d have m
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South African Blues (Lester Melrose
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Audrey Van Dyke. It is a lead sheet
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with ukulele arr. Dick Konter. © J
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ditto. Bunk never wrote nothin’.
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Sure wish we could track down the H
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