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Robbie: This is a blatant plagiarism of theHerschel song, which has caused endlessconfusion - me included. The melody andlyrics are only slightly different from theHerschel version. What’s more, it’s the samepublisher! Sorry, no copy of the cover. Here’sthe chorus lyrics. You can sing it with thesame melody as Herschel -- Lyman’s melodyis essentially the same. Unless Harry Herscheland Tommy Lyman are the same guy, thepublisher was looking the other way! Robbieput up a web page to document this athttp://www.mmdigest.com/Robbie/torch.htmlOOPS: later note from Rhodes says that HarryHerschel is pseudonym for Harry Warren!Discovered that Victor Project note on HarryHerschel says “Note on name: May be apseudonym for Harry Warren.”But the copyright isWhen you carry the torch; words andmelody by James Hershel. © 1 c. Feb. 25,1928; E 686370; Bobbins music corp., NewYork.AlsoWhen you carry the torch ; words and musicby Harry Herschel; pf. acc., with ukulele arr.by Hank Linet. © May 9, 1928; 2 c. May 10;E 691399; Robbins music Corp., New York.BUT very strangely, James Hershel doesn’tappear in the book’s index at all, just HarryHerschel. And there is no indication in the1928 book that Herschel is a pseudonym.BUT in a later note, Robbie Rhodes mentionsthatBesides "The Torch", composer "HarryHerschel held the composer copyright on a1927 pop tune called "Levine, der groisermann".So I looked in the 1927 book and foundLevine; words by Charlie Tobias, melody byHarry Herschel [pseud. of Harry Warren] © 1c. July 20, 1927; E 672224; Shapiro,Bernstein & co., inc., New York.And in the index, we findHerschel (Harry) pseud. See Warren (Harry)Torrid Dora (George L. Cobb)George Foley 1187Confirmed by 8/17/21 copyright reg. andsheet music pub. Rossiter.Torrid Rhythm (Cliff Jackson–Marvin Smolev)Les Rois du Fox-Trot 1436Rec. Cliff Jackson & His Krazy Kats, 1/30/30,Madison 951, Radiex 951 (as TuxedoSyncopators), Van Dyke 81842.Not in copyright books 1929-32.No composer on Radiex in RHJA. Oops: TheChronological Classics Cliff Jackson CD says“unknown” composer for this and a couple ofother obscure Jackson records, even though ithas accurate and complete composer creditsfor all the other titles. But West End JBrecorded it in 2011 and said specifically thatJackson wrote it. Wonder what their sourceis? And the Jazz Oracle reissue of Jacksoncredits Jackson-Marvin Smolev!And another site that is selling Van Dyke81842 shows the label for the other side, butvery carefully lists composers Jackson-Smolevfor our side. AND aha: Popsike had the VanDyke label for Torrid Rhythm, showingSmolev-Jackson.Tougaloo Shout (Alex Hill)Blue Rhythmakers 1373On CD as Toogaloo.Rec. Hill aho 12/20/29, Vocalion 1493.Oops, copyrighted as Tougaloo:Tougaloo shout; melody by Alex Hill. © 1 c.July 28, 1930; E unp. 25535; State Streetmusic pub. co., inc., Chicago.AND guess what! The Vocalion label alsosays Tougaloo Shout. The strange thing isthat google searches on both spellingsproduce far more hits on Toogaloo thanTougalou. I can only guess that any Englishspeaker who hears the title spoken willpresume it’s Toogaloo rather than Tougaloo.Town Talk (Elmer Olson)Elliott Adams 1198ASM, 1917, Bickhart’s Song Shop.Tozo! [Bozo] (Fletcher Henderson–M. A. Cowdery)Roaring Seven JB 1019Waldo’s Gutbucket Syncopators 1036Kustbandet 1178Peruna Jazzmen 1204Keith Nichols Cotton Club Orchestra 1275Les Rois du Fox-Trot 14361036 and 1204 recorded on SOS as Bozoby Clarence Williams, but see the extended“Bozo” notes after the “Tozo!” notes thatfollow directly.TOZO NOTESThat’s not enough . . . keep looking.2013 review: Pinsker found the copyrightreg.:Tozo; words and melody by M. A.Cowdery c 1 c. Oct. 11, 1926 E 648963;M.A. Cowdery, Cleveland.No Fletcher Henderson involvement at thatpoint. Probably Fletcher did thearrangement, eh?Rust says rec. Henderson as Tozo! 1/21/27,Columbia 970-D, J-261, 4421 (numbers don’tmake sense).Well, original Columbia 970-D label doesindeed have the exclamation point and doescredit “Henderson and Cowdery,” so that’show we must list it.BOZO NOTES11/16/13: But in review of “Bozo,” credited toClarence Williams earlier in this index, I cameup with the following info.Rec. Williams Orch 11/28, QRS R-7034, Creole27, Tempo (UK) R-8. Alas, QRS label has nocomposer credit, nor does the Creole.The only Williams reissue I have that gives acomposer credit is indeed Williams on a KingOliver Riverside LP.But hello! 78 Online gives composer credit ofEdward Hite for QRS R-7034. Wonder wherethat came from.. (RHJA has no credit listed.)A google search on Clarence Williams Bozoproduces zillions of hits on CW as theperformer, but practically none as composer,which is in itself suspicious. One obscureexception is a paragraph on CW by an Italiannamed Pierro Scaruffi, which, translated intoEnglish, says, “He recorded several of hiscompositions in intriguing arrangements:Bozo (november 1928), for a big bandfeaturing both cornetists King Oliver and EdAllen, Red River Blues . . .”Obviously, we stay with Williams for now, butI’d sure like more conclusive evidence.Well, here’s where Edward Hite on Online 78may have come from:Bozo; words and music by E. S. Hite.[Photostat] © 1 c. Oct. 24, 1928; E—U.S.unpub. 542; Edward Spalding Hite,Chicago.ThenBozo; by F. Stahlberg; pf. 10, 1929; 2 c.Mar. 13; © Jan. E pub. 4211; Kalmusfilmusic edition, New York.This later reregistered as an orchestration, butreally doesn’t look likely. And later yet we find
Bozo-blues; words and melody by BozoNickerson. pts. 1 and 2. © 1 c. each Jan. 24,1931; E unp. 33653, 33654; State Streetmusic pub. co., inc., Chicago.What’s telling is that there’s no “Bozo”registered to Clarence Williams, either ascomposer or publisher, 1927-31. HE wouldn’thave failed to copyright a tune of his.Allmusic.com says composed by Les Hite, buthe was a swing band leader, wasn’t he? Well,he played reeds with Reb Spikes in 1924,Curtis Mosby 1927-28, Louis Armstrong in1930, then with Benny Goodman. But that’sprobably a dead end--search on Les Hite findsno evidence his real name was anything butLes or Lester.Well, Tom Lord’s Clarence Williams book citesEdwards as the copyright holder of the tune,but that’s not entirely definitive. It may justmean that Lord looked in the 1928 book forBozo, found Edwards, and wrote it down. I’vedone that, thereby creating a false connection,and I think we’ve caught Lord doing itelsewhere as well. It’s worth switching toEdwards for now, but the only REAL solution isto track down the Edwards copyright depositand see if it matches the Clarence WilliamsBozo.But Laurie Wright, in his Oliver biodiscography,claims that they’re the same tuneand that Bozo on the QRS by Williams is just atypo. They don’t sound anything alike to me,but I’ve put them athttp://dickbaker.org/stompoff/Bozo/ for othersto evaluate.And Eureka! Wright was right. RobbieRhodes reported 11/16/13:The song "Bozo," recorded by ClarenceWilliams in 1928, is exactly the essentialverse and chorus of the Hendersonrecording. It's a very good tune and a verygood orchestration by Henderson. I love thesolo by Coleman Hawkins.I support Laurie Wright's theoryAll composer credit for "Bozo", regardlessof the title, should be awarded M. A.Cowdery, at a minimum.We would have to compare FletcherHenderson's full arrangement withCowdery's copyright deposition todetermine which elements were contributedby Henderson. I don't hear any significantcontributions by Clarence (and note that hedidn't try to publish it as his tune).And Bill Haesler came up with a likelyexplanation for “Bozo” when he pointed outthat it was published on the flip side of QRS R-7034 from “Bimbo,” from Williams’s showBottomland. Bimbo – Bozo . . . so not a typo,but a joke, a bit of wordplay?Transatlantic Stomp (Junie Cobb)Chicago Rhythm 1164Credit on LP was Frank Melrose.Rec. E. C. Cobb and his Corn Eaters (bothCobb brothers and Frank Melrose in band),12/10/28, Victor V-38023, Creole 25.Oops, copyright says The by Cobb:Transatlantic (The) stomp; by Junie C.Cobb. [Melody only] © 1 c. Dec. 29, 1928;E—Unpub. 2391; Lester Melrose, Chicago.And the Victor label confirms full name ofJunie C. Cobb, but no The.Trapeze (Billy Mayerl)Tony Caramia 1313Part of The Big Top suite (Ringmaster,Clowning, Entrance of the Trick Cyclists,Dancing Horse, Trapeze), 1948.Copyrighted in U.S. just as the full suite:The big top; five circus sketches for piano,by Billy Mayerl. © Keith, Prowse & Co., ltd,,London; 4May48; EP9298.But amply documented at Billy Mayerl Societysite.Träumende Melodie, Die(Ernst Fischer)Tony Caramia 1328Interesting: copyrighted in U.S. as “TheDreaming Melody” by Ernest Fisher, but weknow that his works were published only inGermany, but that the publisher, wanting toappear “international,” often displayed theEnglish translation of the title even moreprominently than the German one (see“Tintenkleckse” above). Confirmed by thecatalog of the Deutsche Nationalbibliothek.And Alex H. has the sheet music, alsoconfirms that the German definite article Die ispart of title--I had noticed that all the Germansites selling the sheet music left it off.Travelin’ Shoes (Clancy Hayes–Daphne King)Bob Schulz & His Frisco JB 1315
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6th editionWORKING DRAFT WITH NOTES
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Further background notes in case I
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Absolutely (Jabbo Smith)Grand Domin
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Ah-Ha! (James V. Monaco-Sidney Clar
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Zenith Hot Stompers 1248Black Eagle
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Tex’s original-looking 1920 sheet
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(this is not the popular Smith-Burr
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Barrel House Rag - Campbell hand-wr
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seen often both ways, so will chang
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Aug. 22, 1919; E 458166; Spencer Wi
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ecording was Bob Hudson. This may w
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Carroll Dickerson’s Savoy Orch, 5
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Al Dubin)Paul and His Gang 1329Bles
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“BLUE GOOSE”RAGThis says to me
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No composer credit on label. Chilto
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Lathair is the guy who worked in Ch
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Bouncing Around (Armand J. Piron-Pe
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Bright Star Blues (Armand J. Piron-
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Thought I Heard Buddy Bolden Say)."
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But fellow researchers out there, c
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Aha, LC cy catalog of 1929 says,Cal
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Did find the LC copyright:Candy lip
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Not in Rust. Ted des Plantes’ lin
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So it was copyrighted by Oliver alo
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Chicken Reel (Joseph M. Daly)Helm-L
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Kinkle shows it as "Ciribiribin (It
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Becket’s composition or followed
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ASM, 1931, Santly Bros.; w. AF/m. F
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John Gill reports 1/18/24 copyright
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Frankie Trumbauer aho, 6/24/31, Bru
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ut Bob says it never felt comfortab
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the second 32-bar theme is my own,
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’Deed I Do (Walter Hirsch-Fred Ro
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Rec. Moten 6/12/27, Victor 21199--a
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Why Bring That Up? Internet Movie D
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Rhodes: "’Get It Right’ = ‘Do
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At Bessie’s request, all of the c
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“Don’t Go ’Way Nobody,” a s
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migrated northward up the Mississip
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1915; 2 c. July 24, 1915; E 363546;
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Woode on two other titles. So obvio
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all four posibilities we’d have t
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Echoes from the Snowball Club(Harry
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Music by Sadie Koninsky, arranged b
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OH, hell. After all this I thought
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Farmerette (Jesse Greer)George Fole
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Firechief Rag (Danny Alguire)Smith-
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and cy page) (You’ll Miss Me in t
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Gambling Jack (Jelly Roll Morton)Pa
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and "Boy Friend." Kinkle agrees. It
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soul all human beings feel. That th
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Magnolia JB 1016Turk Murphy JB 1161
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Grandpa’s Spells (Jelly Roll Mort
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Waldo’s Jazz Entertainers 1377Con
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We’ve not included arrangers as c
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“Hello Montreal” (but surely it
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1903 sheet could mean that it’s a
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2013 review: We can do better than
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21, 1925; E 627852 Triangle music p
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Rust; if it comes after record numb
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Found sleeve cover for 45 on Pye-Vo
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Actually, it appears that the choru
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So far, still solidly in the “unk
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can find no evidence she ever did a
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tune attributed to Pecora, even und
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(Harry Woods-Billy Rose-Mort Dixon)
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Ponce, also pub. Ager, Yellen & Bor
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If Winter Comes (W. R. Williams-Joh
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Crawford set phrases chanted by Mar
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I’m All Bound ’Round with the M
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Telcon 8/28: OK, do the two = three
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Smith, an article titled “Jelly R
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2013 review: Rec.Clarence Williams
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Confirmed 8/18/36 copyright reg.In
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Alstyne-Williams] via your note of
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Benny Goodman-Jack Teagarden)State
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Jazz Baby (M. K. Jerome-Blanche Mer
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1915; E 372536; Will Rossiter, Chic
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For what it’s worth, Ellington’
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James D. Touchstone. The song's ope
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Online search found FAR more hits o
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Ondippermouth.blogspot.com/2012/11/
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2013 review: Confirmed by 11/26/23
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Confirmed by 4/10/35 copyright reg.
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Eureka, I finally found the instrum
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Let’s Have Another Cup of Coffee(
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Limehouse Blues (Philip Braham-Doug
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some mighty obscure evidence to the
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Keith Nichols Cotton Club Orchestra
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But copyright page isLow Bridge!
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Louisiana Repertory Jazz Ensemble 1
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document it. Ah: Thompson’s liner
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BUT notice alsoMarket Street Blues,
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James V. Monaco)Frederick Hodges 13
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Melancholy Stomp (Don Ewell)Europea
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(where’d he get that?), it was ar
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listing as an alternative title. Ho
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2013 review: It appears that I neve
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For Christ’s sake! Wikipedia has
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Steve Abrams: 1924 by Kapp-Coleman-
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More Than That (Ben Barnett-Clarenc
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Mule Walk, The [Mule Walk Stomp](Ja
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connection with the refrain. The ve
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Ray Smith: credit should go to Oliv
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My Man o’ War (Andy Razaf-Spencer
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Dan Levinson’s Roof Garden JB 136
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Never Again (Isham Jones-Gus Kahn)P
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New Orleans wiggle; by Peter Bocage
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Turk: "That was a tune called '1919
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Norfolk Church Street Sobbin’ Blu
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Oh, baby; from Rain or shine, words
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2013 review: Found the copyright:O
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Rec. Sharkey Bonano, 1/29/37, Vocal
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earliest example I know of that use
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West Jesmond Rhythm Kings 1255All S
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2013 review: Couldn’t find anythi
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Paddle-wheelin’ Along (A Sacramen
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Rosa Henderson, 8/26, Banner 18892*
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and in parens), credits Raye-Shaver
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The Commodore reissue of all the la
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(Sidney Bechet-Rousseau Simmons)Pam
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Porcupine Rag (Charles L. Johnson)R
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Ray Smith 1162Promenade aux Champs-
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Rag Time ChimesWell, very clear on
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Oops, not in copyright books 1929-3
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But Kassel had many other copyright
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Hodges, but the Black Berries Oriol
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Alabama Red Peppers, 4/28, Cameo 82
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But wait: I remember that I have BG
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Moulin à café as alt. title, of c
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Sadness Will Be Gladness(Wingy Mano
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Found sheet music at U. Maine, conf
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with arr. for guit., etc. © Oct. 1
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The Bluebird ODJB 75th Anniversary
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ig questions is this: Is she singin
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Shine on Your Shoes, A(Arthur Schwa
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At this point (June 30, 2011), I wi
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Black Mountain Blues - copyright in
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VICTOR ALTERNATIVE TITLES(Victor te
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CHECK COPYRIGHT CARDSAfrican Hunch
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Galion stomp - lovie austin?Gates B
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meanest blues - napoleon & signorel
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slide, frog, slidesnakes hips spenc
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