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analytic consistency. Although not ‘soluble’, such problems also encourage<br />

interdisciplinary approaches to <strong>innovation</strong>. As David Robson 6 told us in the context of<br />

his work on security, ‘the complexity of the response must mirror the complexity of<br />

the problem’. Rather than setting out to solve the problems of international security,<br />

he saw his responsibility as a public-funded policy adviser to prepare for response to<br />

whatever problems arise next. If the response were prepared from only a single<br />

disciplinary perspective, it could be guaranteed to be inadequate.<br />

The best public investment is therefore to create diverse capacity in analysis and<br />

delivery. Diversity is achieved through investment in interdisciplinarity, and<br />

<strong>innovation</strong> occurs at the time of response, rather than at the time of investment.<br />

Within this strategy, it is considered that when facing real world problems, diversity is<br />

as important as expertise. Furthermore, the necessary range of expertise will not be<br />

contained <strong>with</strong>in any one organisation. This strategy is therefore consistent <strong>with</strong> the<br />

‘open <strong>innovation</strong>’ model of Chesbrough - most <strong>innovation</strong> happens elsewhere, so it is<br />

essential to be open to recognise it. Those arguing for this kind of strategy, rather than<br />

referring to <strong>knowledge</strong> structures and <strong>boundaries</strong>, or suggesting mechanistic causal<br />

metaphors of analysis and response, instead used organic ‘cultivation’ or ‘nurturing’<br />

metaphors emphasising capacity to respond rather than conventional policy and<br />

business views of research as problem-solving.<br />

Scale and sustainability in local and national government<br />

Systemic <strong>innovation</strong> in government will always result, ultimately, in large-scale<br />

change. Just as a large company faces challenges in achieving sustainable <strong>innovation</strong>,<br />

significant and sustainable change in the public sector may not be compatible <strong>with</strong><br />

disruptive <strong>innovation</strong>.<br />

From the testimonies of David Halpern 7 , from the Prime Minister’s Strategy Unit<br />

(PMSU), and Michael Woods, from Haring Woods consultants and Gunpowder Park,<br />

it is clear that similar issues pertain to silos both in central and in local government.<br />

Significantly, David mentioned that disciplinary arguments look odd from the<br />

perspective of policy. However, equally telling, was his recounting of the<br />

competition for resources and departmental priorities that acted as a barrier to crossdisciplinary<br />

engagement in central government. Michael Woods voiced similar<br />

concerns about departmental remits and budgets at the level of local government<br />

preventing any long-term engagement across departmental silos. While project based<br />

teams or policy units might transcend these structural barriers, cutting across<br />

departments or sitting between them, they are tied to the life of the project or the<br />

exigencies of government. In the case of David Halpern, charged <strong>with</strong> creating a new<br />

policy unit in which cross or interdisciplinary interaction might be more easily<br />

encouraged, such an initiative is itself subject to the whim of government and the<br />

inevitable restructuring of the policy making infrastructure.<br />

6 Expert witness report<br />

7 Expert witness report<br />

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