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period of time, both because it is only by sustained investment in people and facilities<br />

that one can build leadership and only over long periods can one generate a payback<br />

on that research investment. We expect that many of the considerations apply as well<br />

to commerce as they do to government. While we have not collected specific evidence<br />

from this project, much seems transferable to the industrial sphere and it would all be<br />

well-aligned <strong>with</strong> current commercial aspirations and practice in <strong>innovation</strong>.<br />

5.1.3 Selling narratives in terms of <strong>innovation</strong> policy<br />

Sponsorship from public funding agencies relies not simply on decisions of a specific<br />

organisation, but on the public policy environment <strong>with</strong>in which the <strong>innovation</strong><br />

horizon of that organisation is defined. <strong>Radical</strong> <strong>innovation</strong> therefore requires direct<br />

engagement <strong>with</strong> policy agendas, even at the level of individual projects.<br />

In a later section of this report, we discuss the implications for research policy, of our<br />

findings regarding the relationship between interdisciplinarity and <strong>innovation</strong>.<br />

However, a particular understanding of this relationship is already evident in research<br />

policy today, and in the policy environment that had resulted in many of the<br />

enterprises that were described at our workshops. The concerns of branding and<br />

selling an enterprise apply also to those who are establishing strategic priorities for<br />

research funding. These concerns include a demand for <strong>innovation</strong> as an expected<br />

outcome of public investment in research activity (whether this is investment in<br />

academic research or in commercial research through tax incentives). They also<br />

include dissatisfaction among sponsors and policy makers <strong>with</strong> the constraints that<br />

‘disciplines’ (or other structurings of <strong>knowledge</strong>) place on research, where these<br />

constraints are seen as preventing or reducing innovative outcomes.<br />

Historical analysis of policy change can help to understand the way that policy is<br />

driven using various discourses and narratives. In our own project, we have seen some<br />

of the social drivers of interdisciplinarity, for example demand for public engagement,<br />

for accelerated development of new technologies, or for user-centred design.<br />

Interdisciplinarity is primarily an achievement of teams, but post-hoc narratives<br />

around successful projects generally emphasise the role of heroes. These narratives<br />

often result in the establishment of new inter-disciplines, <strong>with</strong> a charismatic figure<br />

honoured as a founder, but not necessarily further interdisciplinary <strong>innovation</strong> -<br />

indeed, the need to play a ‘heroic founder’ role is likely to make it hard for that person<br />

to engage in future interdisciplinary <strong>innovation</strong>. Professional historians constantly<br />

battle the ‘great men’ versions of history, <strong>with</strong> their message that the real story was<br />

more complex, and that many people contribute to processes of historical change.<br />

Nevertheless, people like stories <strong>with</strong> a clear hero. This can result in a dynamic that<br />

Geof Rayner 28 found frustrating, where the founder of a significant inter-discipline is<br />

appropriated by some other discipline (perhaps one in which they had initial training<br />

or professional affiliation), thereby denying legitimacy to the new inter-discipline. An<br />

28 Expert witness report<br />

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