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demonstrate hierarchical distinctions between different professional roles, although<br />

her own field (cancer care) has emphasised routine collaborative reviews of the care<br />

of individual patients. She recognises that hierarchy still exists in such teams (though<br />

it can be managed sensitively), but that the distinction between scientists and<br />

clinicians in her supposedly multidisciplinary research was even more pronounced. In<br />

reviewing her own career, she described the culture shock of engagement <strong>with</strong><br />

scientific medical research as a PhD student who had already worked in clinical<br />

practice, a typical career path in medicine. As in most fields, a PhD is a qualification<br />

to enter a particular research community, and must be examined by members of the<br />

community that the student aspires to enter. Medical PhD resemble interdisciplinary<br />

PhDs, in that the student may be trying to ‘enter’ the boundary of a different silo from<br />

the one where they previously belonged (or even worse, if the research is innovative,<br />

it might not be recognisable as belonging to any established bounded research<br />

community - if it remains on the boundary, then the student has not entered the<br />

community). Our interviewee was shocked, and years later remains shocked, by the<br />

personal values and methods of curiosity-driven scientific research. From her own<br />

perspective, the goal of medicine is to cure disease, not to amass <strong>knowledge</strong>. In her<br />

PhD research, she was expected to investigate a topic <strong>with</strong>out a clear clinical goal in<br />

mind - a situation that she found extremely hard to manage, and an attitude that she<br />

still finds hard to accept among her own scientific colleagues.<br />

Her own work today, in which she is a national leader, involves third stage clinical<br />

trials. She brings particular talent in orchestrating the large numbers and the multiple<br />

stakeholders involved in such trials and in ensuring that the increasing volume of<br />

regulatory requirements are fulfilled. She also contributes through the design and<br />

standardisation of protocols and practice that then provides a foundation for future<br />

treatment regimes. These research management skills would be valuable contributions<br />

<strong>with</strong>in the kinds of process that we have described elsewhere in this report. In<br />

particular, critical decisions made during the design and development of trials are key<br />

points in developing treatments. Such decisions need to be tested and she emphasised<br />

the need to collect clear evidence of outcome and the importance of a willingness to<br />

return to a decision point and pursue a new avenue if the evidence dictates. This<br />

seems to be analogous to the flexible, evidence-based, direction-seeking that typifies<br />

the entrepreneur in other contexts. However it is striking to note that although the<br />

trials are created in response to the creation and previous trials of a new drug, she<br />

presented her work as an independent task rather than as a critical stage of an overall<br />

<strong>innovation</strong> process. Only in discussion during our interview did the creative<br />

opportunity from clinical observations fed back to early stage work emerge. Our<br />

expert witness was quite familiar <strong>with</strong> the policy interest in the word ‘<strong>innovation</strong>’, but<br />

in her eyes it is ill defined and carries connotations of ‘bright ideas’, embodied as<br />

‘patented gadgets’. Against this definition it is hardly surprising that the many<br />

valuable contributions from this kind of collaborative practice are less visible and less<br />

ac<strong>knowledge</strong>d than those of the technology sector.<br />

Innovation and Interdisciplinarity 80

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