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Weber 32/36DGV verses the Weber 38DGES

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yodta<br />

(pooh bah)<br />

Sun Mar 06 2005<br />

07:16 AM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Sun Mar 06 2005<br />

03:21 PM<br />

yodta<br />

(pooh bah)<br />

Thu Mar 10 2005<br />

06:58 AM<br />

Gnarls.<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

hey Sarge,<br />

I just got 'round to reading <strong>the</strong> post you left for me about overcarburetion.<br />

makes sense -- boggy, no throttle response...<br />

wellt. I'm not so sure <strong>the</strong> 40/40 I have lying around would really suit my driving needs at this point. mostly just a daily driver, and it<br />

rarely sees anything past 4000-4500rpm, and my cam is ground for low end torque. it really is a nice setup for day to day trips.<br />

I am still curious, though. if I really can't overcarburete by putting on <strong>the</strong> 40/40 seeing how I could control <strong>the</strong> low end with jetting,<br />

<strong>the</strong> thing would probably run pretty well at <strong>the</strong> higher engine speeds as long as my cam can flow <strong>the</strong> air.<br />

basically I'm just looking for <strong>the</strong> absolute best throttle response. if I'm cruising at 2500rpm at any speed and open it up, I want it to<br />

wind up quickly. right now it runs okay and pulls nicely, though it's a little flat sometimes, especially at highway speeds.<br />

seems to pull better on lighter pedal, meaning upto and just teasing <strong>the</strong> secondary, than it does if I really open it up unless I'm at<br />

3500rpm or higher and really have my foot in it.<br />

what do you make of that?<br />

I just recently reverted to <strong>the</strong> factory stock jetting with <strong>the</strong> exception of fatter idle jets. I'm haven't decided yet if it was better in <strong>the</strong><br />

secondary with <strong>the</strong> 155 as opposed to <strong>the</strong> stock 150 I have back in it now.<br />

currently my jetting is:<br />

primary/secondary<br />

idles: 70/65<br />

mains: 130/150<br />

airs: 170/180<br />

mixture screw: 1-1/2 turns out from seated.<br />

nice off <strong>the</strong> line and up through about 40-50mph. a little boggy in <strong>the</strong> secondary, and sluggish at highway speeds in <strong>the</strong><br />

secondary at around 2800rpm. as I said, it climbs better if I'm just upto <strong>the</strong> secondary and just into.<br />

<strong>the</strong> secondary transition seems okay as long as I ease into it with engine speed climing.<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

Try cranking <strong>the</strong> air corrector up in <strong>the</strong> secondary, or even going down with <strong>the</strong> main jet on that side. A good tune will produce a<br />

pretty loud howl when <strong>the</strong> secondary is cracked open . Also, watch <strong>the</strong> air filter, if you have a short K&N style it will restrict it<br />

pretty badly at high flow rates. At 1.5 turns out, you are pretty close to limit on <strong>the</strong> primary idle , how is <strong>the</strong> response off-idle?<br />

Also, a 130 main in <strong>the</strong> primary coupled with <strong>the</strong> 170 air jet is pretty lean at full open in <strong>the</strong> primary, might want to back that down<br />

to a 160 air jet .<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

alright Sarge, I've been thinkin' a bit about my setup after what you've suggested, and I've made a couple of changes:<br />

primary/secondary (previous)<br />

idles: 75/70 (70/65)<br />

mains: 135/150 (130/150)<br />

airs: 170/180 (unchanged)<br />

you were right about <strong>the</strong> primary idle being too lean. <strong>the</strong> screw was out more like 2-1/4, just under 2-1/2. for <strong>the</strong> <strong>32</strong>/36 redline<br />

says 2.5-3 turns is <strong>the</strong> max before bumping up <strong>the</strong> jet. I've changed <strong>the</strong> primary idle to a 75 and got <strong>the</strong> screw down to two turns.<br />

idles much smoo<strong>the</strong>r now and pulls a bit nicer off idle. feels more solid and responsive.<br />

so, I drove it like that for a while, and it was feeling a little flat on mid throttle up around 2200-2800rpm or so, kinda at that<br />

transition spot. I bumped up <strong>the</strong> primary main from 130 to <strong>the</strong> 135 and it's a bit more responsive.<br />

it fell down a little momentarily when getting into <strong>the</strong> secondary, so I changed <strong>the</strong> secondary idle jet from a 65 to a 70, and it<br />

cleaned up a bit.<br />

so, now it's still feeling just a tad flat at just past mid throttle in <strong>the</strong> primary circuit like where <strong>the</strong> vacuum would start pulling in <strong>the</strong><br />

main circuit. my question to you is should I change <strong>the</strong> primary air down to <strong>the</strong> 160 at this point, or go up again on <strong>the</strong> primary<br />

main to a 140?<br />

my understanding is that going down 3 sizes in <strong>the</strong> air jet is equivalent to going up 1 size in <strong>the</strong> main jet, so this can allow you to<br />

fine tune? although, I've also been told that <strong>the</strong> air jets really only come into play above 3000-3500rpm, so...<br />

and you're saying to lean out <strong>the</strong> secondary main circuit? what makes you think it's too fat?<br />

it seems a little boggy, but I can't tell if it's lean or rich at this point with <strong>the</strong> changes I've just made. I need to get my A/F meter<br />

reconnected... I read a couple of years ago that one of <strong>the</strong> "seat of <strong>the</strong> pants" ways to tell whe<strong>the</strong>r lean or rich is to get on it, and<br />

if it feels like something's holding you back like you're dragging something, and you let off <strong>the</strong> throttle slightly and it accelerates<br />

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