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yodta<br />
(pooh bah)<br />
Sun Mar 06 2005<br />
07:16 AM<br />
Sarge<br />
(carpal tunnel)<br />
Sun Mar 06 2005<br />
03:21 PM<br />
yodta<br />
(pooh bah)<br />
Thu Mar 10 2005<br />
06:58 AM<br />
Gnarls.<br />
Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />
hey Sarge,<br />
I just got 'round to reading <strong>the</strong> post you left for me about overcarburetion.<br />
makes sense -- boggy, no throttle response...<br />
wellt. I'm not so sure <strong>the</strong> 40/40 I have lying around would really suit my driving needs at this point. mostly just a daily driver, and it<br />
rarely sees anything past 4000-4500rpm, and my cam is ground for low end torque. it really is a nice setup for day to day trips.<br />
I am still curious, though. if I really can't overcarburete by putting on <strong>the</strong> 40/40 seeing how I could control <strong>the</strong> low end with jetting,<br />
<strong>the</strong> thing would probably run pretty well at <strong>the</strong> higher engine speeds as long as my cam can flow <strong>the</strong> air.<br />
basically I'm just looking for <strong>the</strong> absolute best throttle response. if I'm cruising at 2500rpm at any speed and open it up, I want it to<br />
wind up quickly. right now it runs okay and pulls nicely, though it's a little flat sometimes, especially at highway speeds.<br />
seems to pull better on lighter pedal, meaning upto and just teasing <strong>the</strong> secondary, than it does if I really open it up unless I'm at<br />
3500rpm or higher and really have my foot in it.<br />
what do you make of that?<br />
I just recently reverted to <strong>the</strong> factory stock jetting with <strong>the</strong> exception of fatter idle jets. I'm haven't decided yet if it was better in <strong>the</strong><br />
secondary with <strong>the</strong> 155 as opposed to <strong>the</strong> stock 150 I have back in it now.<br />
currently my jetting is:<br />
primary/secondary<br />
idles: 70/65<br />
mains: 130/150<br />
airs: 170/180<br />
mixture screw: 1-1/2 turns out from seated.<br />
nice off <strong>the</strong> line and up through about 40-50mph. a little boggy in <strong>the</strong> secondary, and sluggish at highway speeds in <strong>the</strong><br />
secondary at around 2800rpm. as I said, it climbs better if I'm just upto <strong>the</strong> secondary and just into.<br />
<strong>the</strong> secondary transition seems okay as long as I ease into it with engine speed climing.<br />
Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />
Try cranking <strong>the</strong> air corrector up in <strong>the</strong> secondary, or even going down with <strong>the</strong> main jet on that side. A good tune will produce a<br />
pretty loud howl when <strong>the</strong> secondary is cracked open . Also, watch <strong>the</strong> air filter, if you have a short K&N style it will restrict it<br />
pretty badly at high flow rates. At 1.5 turns out, you are pretty close to limit on <strong>the</strong> primary idle , how is <strong>the</strong> response off-idle?<br />
Also, a 130 main in <strong>the</strong> primary coupled with <strong>the</strong> 170 air jet is pretty lean at full open in <strong>the</strong> primary, might want to back that down<br />
to a 160 air jet .<br />
Sarge<br />
Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />
alright Sarge, I've been thinkin' a bit about my setup after what you've suggested, and I've made a couple of changes:<br />
primary/secondary (previous)<br />
idles: 75/70 (70/65)<br />
mains: 135/150 (130/150)<br />
airs: 170/180 (unchanged)<br />
you were right about <strong>the</strong> primary idle being too lean. <strong>the</strong> screw was out more like 2-1/4, just under 2-1/2. for <strong>the</strong> <strong>32</strong>/36 redline<br />
says 2.5-3 turns is <strong>the</strong> max before bumping up <strong>the</strong> jet. I've changed <strong>the</strong> primary idle to a 75 and got <strong>the</strong> screw down to two turns.<br />
idles much smoo<strong>the</strong>r now and pulls a bit nicer off idle. feels more solid and responsive.<br />
so, I drove it like that for a while, and it was feeling a little flat on mid throttle up around 2200-2800rpm or so, kinda at that<br />
transition spot. I bumped up <strong>the</strong> primary main from 130 to <strong>the</strong> 135 and it's a bit more responsive.<br />
it fell down a little momentarily when getting into <strong>the</strong> secondary, so I changed <strong>the</strong> secondary idle jet from a 65 to a 70, and it<br />
cleaned up a bit.<br />
so, now it's still feeling just a tad flat at just past mid throttle in <strong>the</strong> primary circuit like where <strong>the</strong> vacuum would start pulling in <strong>the</strong><br />
main circuit. my question to you is should I change <strong>the</strong> primary air down to <strong>the</strong> 160 at this point, or go up again on <strong>the</strong> primary<br />
main to a 140?<br />
my understanding is that going down 3 sizes in <strong>the</strong> air jet is equivalent to going up 1 size in <strong>the</strong> main jet, so this can allow you to<br />
fine tune? although, I've also been told that <strong>the</strong> air jets really only come into play above 3000-3500rpm, so...<br />
and you're saying to lean out <strong>the</strong> secondary main circuit? what makes you think it's too fat?<br />
it seems a little boggy, but I can't tell if it's lean or rich at this point with <strong>the</strong> changes I've just made. I need to get my A/F meter<br />
reconnected... I read a couple of years ago that one of <strong>the</strong> "seat of <strong>the</strong> pants" ways to tell whe<strong>the</strong>r lean or rich is to get on it, and<br />
if it feels like something's holding you back like you're dragging something, and you let off <strong>the</strong> throttle slightly and it accelerates<br />
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