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Weber 32/36DGV verses the Weber 38DGES

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(stranger)<br />

Mon May 23 2005<br />

09:49 PM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Tue May 24 2005<br />

02:10 AM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Sat Jun 04 2005<br />

02:01 AM<br />

yodta<br />

(pooh bah)<br />

Sat Jun 04 2005<br />

02:10 PM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Sun Jun 05 2005<br />

01:34 AM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Thu Jun 16 2005<br />

01:20 PM<br />

This one that I MAY be able to get is off a worked-over hybrid. I am just afraid of getting a carb that I can't get parts for later or<br />

that will require extensive jetting and/or modification to work on my car.<br />

I really want a 38/38 but I was hoping to acquire a used one at a very good price so I could sell my street legal carb and offset <strong>the</strong><br />

cost of it.<br />

Out of curiosity, how much do you charge to tune carbs? Just in case I couldn't get it dialed in correctly? It may be cheaper than<br />

me buying jets and o<strong>the</strong>r parts and stabbing in <strong>the</strong> dark.<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

That could get expensive with <strong>the</strong> price of gas, I'm in north central Illinois . Tuning prices depend upon time spent and whe<strong>the</strong>r or<br />

not <strong>the</strong> carb needs work . Jets are getting quite costly but tuning just takes time is all. Without <strong>the</strong> engine/vehicle here it's not<br />

easy on motors I'm not used to dealing with every day. The Suzukis I can tune off <strong>the</strong> top of my head with just some basic info<br />

and cylinder pressure checks. Most of <strong>the</strong> Toy aftermarket shops should be able to tell you a very close jetting point to start with<br />

based on your engine, which is about all I do with my customers. From that point <strong>the</strong> rest is just based upon driving impressions<br />

and power gains .<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

Anyone figure out a cable travel length yet??<br />

Spent part of last week building a 38DGAS onto a stock intake, looks to work very well with <strong>the</strong> taller adapter . Also got a closer<br />

look at <strong>the</strong> Offenhauser manifold, what a waste of money. No offense, I'm sure it works well at low revs but <strong>the</strong> stock manifold<br />

would really work better overall from what I've seen. Talked to a couple of guys that have switched back to <strong>the</strong> stocker and are<br />

very surprised how well <strong>the</strong>y worked. One had tried to use a 40DFAV on his Offy with some nasty results, it just couldn't brea<strong>the</strong><br />

with that split runner design. The design works well on <strong>the</strong> older inline MG motors, but <strong>the</strong>y do not have <strong>the</strong> cfm rates at higher<br />

revs like <strong>the</strong> Toy 2.4L engines.<br />

Also, I think I've found a solution to <strong>the</strong> cable adaptation problem for <strong>the</strong> Toy trucks to run <strong>the</strong> DCNF carbs. I think we'll just make<br />

a cable wheel and use <strong>the</strong> stock cable to turn <strong>the</strong> wheel and in turn move a short cable that can drive <strong>the</strong> carb linkage . Or<br />

possibly even a solid ball arm, whichever is <strong>the</strong> cleanest install .<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

I'll try to get this measurement today or tomorrow.<br />

I wouldn't think <strong>the</strong> dual plane model would be very effective on synchronous carburetors. <strong>the</strong> smaller runner for use with <strong>the</strong><br />

progressive carb probably works quite well though to keep <strong>the</strong> mixture velocity high.<br />

when I install <strong>the</strong> 40 I'm going to be using <strong>the</strong> stock manifold. hoping to start that in a couple of weeks or so.<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

I'll try to get some pics up of <strong>the</strong> manifold work and plugs used , <strong>the</strong> main one below <strong>the</strong> carb was a real pain , something like<br />

22mm . I found out <strong>the</strong> stock Suzuki trans drain plug is <strong>the</strong> correct size so I used a spare . Nice to get rid of <strong>the</strong> vacuum crap,<br />

also plugged off <strong>the</strong> extra water holes from <strong>the</strong> sensors for <strong>the</strong> stock carb . I'm seriously not impressed with that split runner, just<br />

too small even for a well flowed <strong>32</strong>/36 .<br />

I talked to <strong>the</strong> owner of <strong>the</strong> intake and <strong>the</strong>re is a possibility of <strong>the</strong> fuel injected later model trucks might have <strong>the</strong> same throttle<br />

cable setup, just longer for <strong>the</strong> efi . If that's <strong>the</strong> case, we're in business for <strong>the</strong> DCNF swap . I'll spend some time at <strong>the</strong> parts<br />

house early next week to verify it ....<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

Well, <strong>the</strong> 40DCNF project starts next week thanks to some help from this board. The later model 22RE in <strong>the</strong> 4Runners is longer<br />

and has <strong>the</strong> correct ends to work on <strong>the</strong> earlier pickups, perfect for this build. Now I just gotta find a test truck to work out <strong>the</strong><br />

bugs....<br />

Sarge<br />

yodta Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

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