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Weber 32/36DGV verses the Weber 38DGES

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(pooh bah)<br />

Thu Jun 16 2005<br />

05:52 PM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Fri Jun 17 2005<br />

12:51 AM<br />

yodta<br />

(pooh bah)<br />

Fri Jun 17 2005<br />

12:00 PM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Fri Jun 17 2005<br />

01:28 PM<br />

yodta<br />

(pooh bah)<br />

Fri Jun 17 2005<br />

01:47 PM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Sat Jun 18 2005<br />

01:13 AM<br />

yodta<br />

(pooh bah)<br />

Sat Jun 18 2005<br />

01:46 AM<br />

Sarge<br />

(carpal tunnel)<br />

Sun Jun 19 2005<br />

01:43 PM<br />

cool.<br />

have you gotten a cable measurement yet?<br />

sorry for dragging my feet on this one. my truck buddy's only around on <strong>the</strong> weekends and we haven't been able to hang out for a<br />

while. I can get one of <strong>the</strong> guys from <strong>the</strong> office to help me, though.<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

No, <strong>the</strong> only real thing left is actual cable stroke, or distance <strong>the</strong> cable travels as <strong>the</strong> pedal goes from idle position to full throttle.<br />

That will be <strong>the</strong> final distance setting from <strong>the</strong> cable mounting bracket to <strong>the</strong> throttle wheel mounted on <strong>the</strong> carb's shaft . Also,<br />

does anyone build a full mechanical distributor for <strong>the</strong> 22R's? If not, I will be forced to modify <strong>the</strong> carbs and install a vacuum<br />

advance port since almost all models of 40-44mm DCNF's do not use <strong>the</strong>m . Like I said, hope to move very forward with this<br />

project early next week...<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

LC Engineering makes a mechanical distributor. I think <strong>the</strong>y're around $270. I bought one a long time ago, but switched back to<br />

<strong>the</strong> stock type for <strong>the</strong> time being.<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

Ok, so I doubt <strong>the</strong>y are real common . Just needed some info on whe<strong>the</strong>r or not I had to set <strong>the</strong> carbs up with a vacuum advance<br />

. No real big deal, but may add a bit to <strong>the</strong> overall cost . Hoping to keep <strong>the</strong> prices fair as possible, probably just find used carbs<br />

and rebuild <strong>the</strong>m since <strong>the</strong>re are no major wear issues w/DCNF's.<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

you know, do you think you could just rig up "ported" vacuum through <strong>the</strong> air cleaner assy? or do you think that signal wouldn't be<br />

strong enough?<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

Not enough signal, vacuum advance units typically require 10-15"hg to actuate <strong>the</strong>m fully. I'd hate not to give <strong>the</strong> ability to use <strong>the</strong><br />

carb to it's full potential. Adding ports is not that bad, just gotta know where to time <strong>the</strong>m...<br />

Sarge<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

how do you mean... where to time <strong>the</strong>m?<br />

how can you control that?<br />

Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

The relationship between <strong>the</strong> throttle valve and <strong>the</strong> hole for <strong>the</strong> advance as well as angle/size will determine <strong>the</strong> volume and<br />

timing of vacuum applied to <strong>the</strong> advance line.<br />

For example:<br />

On <strong>the</strong>se Suzuki's <strong>the</strong> advance port at <strong>the</strong> distributor is 1/8" . Almost all of <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong>s use a 3/16" advance port at <strong>the</strong> carb . I<br />

can actually test a difference in ignition timing advance and how fast it opens by altering <strong>the</strong> length of <strong>the</strong> vacuum advance line<br />

and how far I run <strong>the</strong> 3/16" tubing before adapting to <strong>the</strong> 1/8" tubing . If <strong>the</strong> 3/16" piece is pretty short, <strong>the</strong> timing jumps up pretty<br />

radically . The longer <strong>the</strong> big tube, <strong>the</strong> slower and more stable <strong>the</strong> timing reacts . Almost sounds nuts, but <strong>the</strong> carb works <strong>the</strong><br />

same way . If that port is drilled too high like a lot of <strong>the</strong> Holley's <strong>the</strong> advance becomes a bit sluggish. If it's too low it can also<br />

exhibit a quick initial pull but will drop off a bit as <strong>the</strong> blade is opened . There is an ideal spot but each carb is different according<br />

to <strong>the</strong> throttle blade angle . <strong>Weber</strong>s that I use for <strong>the</strong> most part have 78* throttle blades which makes it pretty easy to align <strong>the</strong><br />

port timing . Specialized tuning is fun but can drive you a bit nuts at <strong>the</strong> same time .....<br />

BTW, done with those emulsion tubes yet ?<br />

Sarge<br />

yodta Re: <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>32</strong>/<strong>36DGV</strong> <strong>verses</strong> <strong>the</strong> <strong>Weber</strong> <strong>38DGES</strong><br />

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