Weber 32/36DGV verses the Weber 38DGES

yodta
(pooh bah)
Thu Nov 03 2005
01:41 AM
Gnarly4X
(carpal tunnel)
Thu Nov 03 2005
02:20 AM
NOT. Help me understand, I'm open to being convinced. I'm just old school and have a hard time understanding that after about
50 years of being around engines that all of a sudden someone posts something on the internet and now I should believe that an
engine "pinging" is normal. Again, I'm open to learning, I only know a little bit about engines, but help me understand why an
engine is supposed to ping?... Please. Not only does this guy make contradicted statements, but he is totally full of shit and
doesn't know what the phuck he's talking about. Scott, you are a very intelligent, educated, logical-minded individual. Please
re-read his commentary, then if you still feel the same way, I'll tear his commentary apart word by word!!!!!
Gnarls.
Re: Weber 32/36DGV verses the Weber 38DGES
I had a hard time following him separating the types of pinging and, as well, found it somewhat arbitrary and contradictory. in
hindsight, I shouldn't have wasted the time with such a random find, but what I found interesting was his descriptions of the
different problems that can cause pinging, his suggestion that pinging should be recognized and the cause remedied, and how a
properly tuned engine rides on the border of pinging for maximum power. that I believe, and it helps me understand a little more
about why mine may be doing it:
I'm already topped out on pump gas.
I'm bordered on maximum timing, and it only pings when I'm lugging it, which I define as hard acceleration coming out of a turn at
around 2000rpm in too low of a gear. at higher engine speeds, it doesn't ping. this leads me to believe it's a combination of timing
and my driving style. you've always said that performance & economy are not necessarily bed partners. I'll do you one better and
go as far as to say that performance and longevity are not bed partners. if I continue to drive this engine on the border, allowing
pinging on occasion, I think I'll end up toasting the rings from the excessive heat over time, for a second time. anyway, I'm about
to just call it and say this is the best I can do, and that I can either have driveability and longevity while sacrificing a negligible
amount of power, or go the other route...
the way I took his final statement about how an engine should ping was not in saying that you should actually drive it pinging, but
to downshift so that it does not. this is the part I find applying to my situation. maybe this is that "certain condition" that my
girlfriend's brother in-law was talking about, though his take was that it's okay. anyway, most of this post was about what the
causes are, then a statement about how and why to fix the problem.
no sir, I'm not going to try to convince you that pinging is okay. I fully respect your knowledge and experience even though you're
humble about it, and I'm with you; I don't think it's okay under any situation and is simply and indication that something's off,
either timing, carbon, lean mixture or you're just plain driving wrong.
I'd like to find some good, reputable reading on the long term effects of pinging, though I'm pretty sure that running my last engine
too lean is what burned up my rings.
Re: Weber 32/36DGV verses the Weber 38DGES
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I had a hard time following him separating the types of pinging and, as well, found it somewhat arbitrary and
contradictory.
Yep, me too.
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in hindsight, I shouldn't have wasted the time with such a random find, ...
Negatory!! This type of "find" and discussion is exactly what we need... help separating the bullshit from the facts...
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but what I found interesting was his descriptions of the different problems that can cause pinging, his suggestion that
pinging should be recognized and the cause remedied, and how a properly tuned engine rides on the border of
pinging for maximum power. that I believe, and it helps me understand a little more about why mine may be doing it:
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