The Knowledge - Velocette Owners Club
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amount which drops out onto the walls of the pipe actually remains there when the engine stops.<br />
L #4066 At long last my '55 MAC is getting a long overdue rebuild (to my usual standards!) I have<br />
flattened all joint surfaces in a bid to slow the leaks, and have drilled and fitted a breather under the<br />
magneto. <strong>The</strong> question is what do I do with the pipe? Can it be just run to the back of the bike or must it<br />
go via the oil tank? <strong>The</strong> MAC tank would need some pipework welded in to do it properly, but it has no<br />
froth tower, just a raised filler cap. Any suggestions would be most welcome.<br />
#4069 <strong>The</strong> crankcase breather must breathe into the oil tank since it will carry a lot of oil out with the<br />
breathed vapour. This is normally separated out in the tank, and the froth tower system keeps the oil in<br />
the tank and only dry (ish) vapour out of the rear breather pipe. If you don't have a froth tower you can<br />
only hope that not too much oil finds it's way out of the breather hole in the tank cap, but this hole really<br />
isn't big enough to allow the engine to breathe correctly and I would recommend that you invest in<br />
having the tank modified to incorporate the full late breather system plumbing.<br />
#4072 <strong>The</strong>re are two critical lengths for the pipes to balance the natural frequency of the engine.<br />
Without them it is said that the oil will be evacuated. Someone will tell you the correct lengths, or if not<br />
we will find the information in the Veloplonk draw and respond.<br />
#4086 <strong>The</strong> adaptor to oil tank pipe should be 3/8 bore 21.375". Oil tank to wheel 27.5"<br />
#4088 Please advise where exactly do you take these measurements from? <strong>The</strong>y seem very tight<br />
tolerance!<br />
#4092 You don't take the measurements from any point to any point, they are just the length of the<br />
pipes.<br />
#4070 Agreed, I have tried several times to vent the timing chest breather directly out to the rear of the<br />
bike, even going as far as putting a baffle inside the timing chest in front of the outlet hole. All in vein,<br />
there is just too much oil flying around in the timing chest. In desperation, during the summer rally, I<br />
routed the hose into the side of a plastic bottle, the air free to flow out the top. This worked fine except I<br />
had to empty the can back into the oil tank at every stop! You mentioned you drilled the breather tube<br />
hole under the mag. Make sure you also have the required holes leading from the crank case to the<br />
timing chest.<br />
#4111 My first attempt to correct excessive oil breathing on my VM (aka "<strong>The</strong> Torrey Canyon") involved<br />
fitting the standard BSP hose connection under the magneto and piping it to a small cast alloy box<br />
mounted on a bracket under the dualseat. <strong>The</strong> other end of the box was piped to the general area of<br />
the rear number plate. I ran a flexible quarter inch pipe from the bottom of this box through a hole<br />
drilled in the top of a scruffy old oil tank cap and stuffed the box with pot scourers. <strong>The</strong>re were BSP<br />
stud couplings everywhere but the installation was fairly tidy and it just about worked. Until, after about<br />
3000 miles I looked inside the alloy box to find a disgusting mixture of mayonaise and rust - no sign of<br />
the pot scourers. That's what happens if you get the breather pipe lengths wrong. Since then I have<br />
done the proper job as outlined in Rod Burris' book but I've only piped to the oil tank; no external pipe<br />
to the rear. <strong>The</strong> timing chest / rocker box behaves as a plenum chamber and, to a limited extent, so<br />
does the oil tank; hence the reduced oil loss to the rear wheel when the tank is half full.<br />
#4105 I reproduce here exactly Les's article. It appears that I am mistaken in that over the years Les & I<br />
discussed, (mostly by mail ) various ideas on breathers & other things, & while I am sure that at one<br />
point he was playing with some sort of timed 'valving' ideas, this article & the only drawing that I have<br />
which is listed numerically, has no corresponding 'valve' drawing as I mentioned in my last mail, & I<br />
have to draw the conclusion that this 'valve' is nothing more than an oil trap & drain idea that he<br />
discusses in the article. <strong>The</strong> idea behind it's success being no more than the use of a large diameter<br />
vent which he states should be routed well up above the unit, & the fact that any oil picked up remains<br />
in a chamber & large capacity outlet tube of relatively static, though pulsating air, from which it drains<br />
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