The Knowledge - Velocette Owners Club
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# 5973 Originally it would have had a magnetic exhaust valve. However if you are going to the expense<br />
of rebuilding the engine I would recommend new valves, even if it is just due to the fact that a ground<br />
exhaust valve will sit even deeper in the no doubt pocked seat. Not such a performance issue on the<br />
exhaust side, but certainly will be on the inlet.<br />
# 5984 <strong>The</strong> original valve material is magnetic for both IN & EX. If you get new valves from the VOC the<br />
EX will be higher spec than original. <strong>The</strong> material Veloce used was EN52 for both - and that is quite OK<br />
for road use - the exhaust will suffer on unleaded fuel though but probably not enough to worry you. If<br />
you intend to thrash it, get a better one. I would not sleeve cast iron valve guides though - get new.<br />
Does your head man know what he's doing?<br />
# 5930 I would be more concerned about the guy doing your head rather than the valve itself!<br />
Providing the exhaust valve is not bi metallic, i.e. different materials for head and stem (check with a<br />
magnet) it should be OK. It's probably 21/4N rather than Nimonic (although it could be a Venom valve<br />
that is fitted as - while their head size is identical the length is not). Your inlet is probably EN52. If you<br />
want to learn more visit the G & S Valves web site. Odds on your valve originated in their factory, as the<br />
VOC, Grove, Dodkins, Uncle Tom Cobly and all source their valves from G & S.<br />
http://www.gsvalves.co.uk/technical_information.htm <strong>The</strong> reason for the difference between the inlet<br />
and exhaust valve and guide is that the stem diameters differ 3/8" for the exhaust 5/16" for the inlet,<br />
plus there's also some minor detail differences in the guides. Everyone at some time should experience<br />
the pure pleasure of replacing valve guides in iron heads. Just a big hammer and suitable drift -<br />
guaranteed results each time with none of the stress of: Is the head the right temperature? Will it pick<br />
up? Have I put it in too far / not far enough? By the way if your valve seats are pocketed in an iron<br />
head, you can replace them with inserts. While the recess has to be machined accurately, its another<br />
big hammer and drift job. Regards Dai Hello all, I have a question about valves for my 1937 MSS 500.<br />
<strong>The</strong> guy who is redoing the valves on my cylider head said he is concerned because the exhast valve is<br />
non magnetic. He says both valves are the same size... I notice my parts book says the intake is a<br />
M2/4 and Exhaust is a M2/5 also I noticed the guides both have different part numbers... If they are the<br />
same why the different numbers?<br />
L # 6023 Hi guys. I thought that I would send a quick note to let you know how things are<br />
progressing on my mkI KSS. Remember, the cam and skids wore out very quickly on it's first ride. I've<br />
borrowed and bought some spares, and loosly assembled the bits on the workbench last night. When I<br />
placed the cambox onto the head, I realized that the inlet tappet is not centered on the inlet valve. <strong>The</strong><br />
tappet is only hitting it halfway. I looked closer at the valve to see if it was bent, but it seems straight. It<br />
appears that the tappet must have been putting a sideload onto the valve. That rocker broke at the<br />
tappet, so the stresses must have been severe. <strong>The</strong> end of the valve has mushroomed quite a bit, and<br />
now I cannot remove the valve from the guide without cutting the valve end off. So.... I'll try to fit my<br />
cambox onto another head if possible, to see if they cambox or head is at fault. Does anybody have<br />
any other ideas of what could have lead to this? Maybe the valve guide is in the head crooked, and<br />
now the valve end is too far away from the tappets?<br />
# 6025 <strong>The</strong> early Mk1s had a camshaft that had a much larger base circle diameter than later models,<br />
the rocker skid inserts were correspondingly shorter than later models. If the cams and skids don't<br />
match, the rocker will strike the valve at the wrong angle, and is possibly what your problem is. I am no<br />
expert, and cannot tell you when the change occurred, or what the skid lengths or base diameters are,<br />
perhaps someone else out there can oblige! I ended up adding oil jets aimed at the cams to cure the<br />
rapid wear on my KTP, the head now is no longer in danger of going rusty!<br />
# 6027 Has the inlet valve been pocketed into the head through too much seat grinding? It’s a common<br />
problem with old K bits. If not is the valve the right length? A miss-match of bits eg followers, rockers,<br />
cam will give problems with contact areas and angles on the rocker movement. Have you got the skids<br />
& tappets sorted out? I now have some to measure if required.<br />
L # 6182 I have just bought a 1967 Venom and have taken the head off to check there was no<br />
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