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on, the battery might become discharged. <strong>The</strong>re is an article on the group site under \files\electrics<br />

which explains why it's OK to run a 6v generator into a 12v system, it is well worth reading. It seems the<br />

most important thing is to control the rate of increase of charge rather than to limit the maximum<br />

voltage. This is what the black box regulator does. <strong>The</strong> most interesting part of the article to me is that<br />

a 6v 60Watt dynamo when run at 12v will produce around 100 Watts (theoretically 120W but losses<br />

reduce this). This means that you can run higher wattage headlight bulbs etc. Obviously you don't get<br />

something for nothing and the biggest one is that charging starts at higher revs than before. Other<br />

people might be able to give you some ideas about why your dynamo has failed, but I'm sure it's not<br />

been caused by having a small battery. You say it lasted 100 miles. Is this 100miles on a<br />

new(reconditioned) dynamo or 100 miles since you went to 12v? If it's 100 miles on a new dynamo I'd<br />

be speaking to whoever supplied it!<br />

#1766 Here`s more info: Battery: small 12V and about 3-4amps. Dynamo: history unknown, but can<br />

be more than 10 years since conversion to 12V,we did all the tests described in service manual and<br />

nothing worked, it won`t spin with outside battery and meter shows nothing when running. So maybe<br />

it`s hours are up... Regulator: metal box under seat in top of rear fender, painted grey "hammer<br />

laquer",main fuse on the right side 15a and next to it green led which lights when charging, so what<br />

make is that? It had broken diode which I replaced (kept burning that main fuse). Box has lid which is<br />

detached with four small screws. My friend has left over Alton generator from Gold Star single and I`m<br />

gonna try that one soon as I can get a pulley machined to suit Venom. Any experiences with Altons?<br />

Does it rob much power because it feels so stiff compared to Miller?<br />

#1767 For a number of years I have lived with unsatisfactory 3.5ah 12 v lead acid battery in a hollowed<br />

out battery case. It never had the capacity to smooth out the fluctuations in current requirements to<br />

provide steady lights. Also, every year I had to replace it, as even when trickle charging during the<br />

winter it never fully survived. Two years ago I replaced my lead acid battery for two 6 v 5 ah Cyclone<br />

batteries in series www.hepi.com/monobloc.htm <strong>The</strong>y hold their charge really well, and work perfectly<br />

even after laying idle over the winter. You will need a replica case and not a hollowed out case to fit two<br />

batteries, as they are a tight fit. For six volts either wire them in parallel or use the 6v 8ah version.<br />

While you are at it fit a Xenon headlight bulb and get 30% extra light for no extra load.<br />

#1770 <strong>The</strong> UK distributor is DMS Technology Ltd, www.dmstech.co.uk located in Romsey, Hampshire<br />

(just round the corner from me). Unfortunately they have a minimum order charge of 100 pounds. <strong>The</strong>y<br />

suggested that I go to RS components. A quick look at their web page rswww.com/uk shows that the<br />

2v 5A/H (p/n 591-483) cell is 6.25 GBP each (plus VAT) or the 2v 8A/H cell (p/n 265-1947) is 9 GBP<br />

(plus VAT). At those prices, a 12v 5 A/H battery would cost 44 GBP and a 12v 8A/H would cost 63.45<br />

GBP. Another solution would be for a group of like minded people to get together and place an order<br />

greater than 100 GBP direct from the distributors?<br />

#1772 Hi I buy my Cyclons as Kempton Autojumble approx GBP 12 for the 5 ah and GBP 15 for the 8<br />

ah. If you can wait, I will get his phone number when I go later this month. Alternatively call CMES who<br />

sell them all be it a little more expensively. However they will give you excellent technical support as I<br />

have heard they have an excellent reputation on rebuilding dynamos. <strong>The</strong>ir number is 01454 323434<br />

#1773 If you go back to Fishtail # 324 page 20 I gave some details of a Cyclone battery 'contact'. I<br />

presume he still does it.<br />

#1775 For those of you w/6 volt lighting and Mag ignition, I recommend using a sealed lead acid gel<br />

battery. <strong>The</strong>se are available for emergency lighting and a 4.2 amp/hr unit fits perfectly in a hollowed out<br />

Exide black rubber case. You could use 2 to create a 12v source. I have a connector wired into my<br />

loom so that one I am not using the bike the battery is on a charge. Because the battery is sealed there<br />

is no worries about boil over. I've been utilizing this set up for about 15 years and it works great.<br />

#1778 I've just finished making a slightly larger battery box from sheet steel, complete with a curved lid<br />

and bolting it to the original battery platform. It will now house a conventional lead acid battery but also<br />

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