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The Knowledge - Velocette Owners Club

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#916 Quite right. <strong>The</strong> top grade should be used in Vipers and Venoms. Lower grades are OK for MACs<br />

and MSSs in standard trim, but their use with the higher CRs will cause pinking and eventually holed<br />

pistons. Using the wrong spark plug can do this too, by causing pre-ignition. NGK B8ES or harder is<br />

necessary for VM etc.<br />

#919 I always run Sunoco grade 94 (they claim is the highest available in Canada) Is Aviation fuel an<br />

option?<br />

#926 Personally I wouldn't recommend using Avgas. Although the normal rating is 100LL (100 Octane<br />

Low Lead) my experience with an Aprilia 250 GP bike demonstrated that this is not a cure all for<br />

detonation problems. This machine was bought new direct from the factory in '90 for use in the British<br />

and European championships and came with the usual amount of technical documentation and help<br />

that one gets from an Italian factory - not a lot! Believing that we ought to be running high octane race<br />

fuel which was unobtainable in the UK at the time and since the rules on fuel were being tightened up,<br />

on advice from BP we began running the machine on Super unleaded 98 RON pump fuel (BP claimed<br />

at the time that their pump average for this fuel was 99 RON). Since this was a two-stroke machine we<br />

mistakenly believed that the lack of lead shouldn't be a problem. Within a dozen or so laps of Cadwell<br />

on the first time out we had a holed piston. Consultation with people in the know suggested that<br />

perhaps we ought to be running leaded fuel so the next time out we ran a 50/50 mix of 4* leaded fuel<br />

and Avgas, a common brew in racing use at the time. This stopped us holing pistons but we continued<br />

to have a small amount of detonation erosion on the top of the pistons and the rider always reported<br />

poor carburation whatever jetting settings we ran. I gradually increased the proportion of Avgas until we<br />

were eventually running 100% of the stuff but never completely got rid of the det damage and it<br />

appeared that the carburation problem was getting worse. Eventually frustration led me to go to the<br />

other extreme and I tried 100% 4* as a last resort and - hey presto! - no more detonation and perfect<br />

carburation! This led me to believe that although Avgas is rated at a high octane it is not designed for<br />

use at ground level but at several thousand feet up in the air where the oxygen content of the<br />

atmosphere is lower. <strong>The</strong> "Low Lead" tag is misleading too, in fact Avgas has a higher lead content<br />

than 4* leaded gasoline. However, as the regs regarding fuel have changed over the last few years,<br />

most of the factories have produced racing machines which are designed to run on Avgas and have<br />

combustion chamber shape and ignition advance curves altered to suit the burn characteristics of the<br />

fuel. My conclusion was that in general Avgas was no help in tackling det problems in engines unless<br />

those engines were designed for it in the first place. Better to alter the timing to suit the available fuel,<br />

particularly when you can't get Avgas from your everyday petrol station. What would you do if you went<br />

for a touring holiday on the bike - have someone follow with a tanker full of special fuel?<br />

#932 In the USA Sunoco sells a variety of race fuels, their website is www.racegas.com <strong>The</strong>re is a<br />

dealer close to me that has 110 octane (R+M/2) leaded, they also offer unleaded up to 104. And<br />

leaded up to 117! Also methanol if you are racing speedway or sprint cars. With a 50/50 mix of the 110<br />

and the 91 octane U/L "premium" sold in our local gas stations, my VMT starts first kick, no pinking.<br />

Since this bike is not intended for long-distance touring (rather for 100 - 200 mile rides on Sundays),<br />

this works for me. All other Velos in our garage are timed at 36 - 37 degrees and run 8:1 CR or less.<br />

30 years ago I thought my Venom had a rod knock, took it down to the crankshaft looking for a nonexistent<br />

problem, realized years later it was pinking.<br />

L #934 What about so called octane boosters? Is any one brand preferred over another?<br />

#940 Octane boosters are a waste of space.<br />

#942 Warning! Anything potent enough to raise octane significantly in small amounts will likely be so<br />

poisonous and/or carcinogenic that you wouldn't want it in your garage, much less toolkit or tankbag.<br />

Remember Dave Allcock.<br />

#944 I have spoken in the past with a fuel chemist, and he recommended adding xylene at NO MORE<br />

THAN 10% to gas if octane boost were needed. Toluene I would imagine is much the same, but I<br />

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