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The Knowledge - Velocette Owners Club

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with the adjuster compensating for spring pressure loss due to clutch plate wear. I have, however, a<br />

box of old throw out bearings that have grooves as deep as .050, a common occurrence (I use the<br />

roller type). This will not be compensated for by adjustment, in fact adjusting to take up slack would<br />

lengthen the springs .100 (both races, same goes for worn pins etc.). On my Bonneville and B50 (I<br />

keep these around to remind me how good Velos really are and to lend out) just one turn of the clutch<br />

spring nuts (.040?) has a noticeable effect on grip and handlebar feel. Also on my hot rod VMT, before I<br />

went to an updated clutch, I had to run a spring shim of about that size to avoid slippage. Two years<br />

ago I updated the clutch on my MKIII KTT (yes, with the old VMT clutch) and in doing so ended up with<br />

a very soft clutch that wouldn't even hold for starting. What I neglected to realize was that the three<br />

thrust pins were of different length, so I had just the scenario above. I should have realized this when<br />

the center nut went on without the usual push and twist motion. Point is that in a perfect world all is well<br />

but over the years many bikes get 'massaged'.<br />

# 5271 <strong>The</strong> most difficult bit about the procedure is defining “and only just slip”, it’s a bit like saying<br />

slightly pregnant.Although Veloce made the large thrust pin in 2 lengths,next time you have the primary<br />

side apart,you may find that with the gearbox operating lever at its lowest position (clutch cable<br />

removed),there is room for a longer pin,make one up out of silver steel(drill rod)so that it is flush with<br />

the face of the g/box, we need all the clutch lift available particularly with new plates fitted.A few years<br />

ago there was a tip in Fishtail no37. for a Clutch oil seal convertion, I made one up & have been using it<br />

for about 5years it works well, much better results than the felt or neoprene seals I have tried.<br />

L # 5296 It appears to me that the advent of the World Wide <strong>Velocette</strong> chat room has buried the<br />

Velo clutch bogey once & for all ! <strong>The</strong>re is so much instant help out there, that the newcomer only has<br />

to follow the plentiful advice given, & those first agonizing weeks of getting sense out of your new<br />

acquisition that has this clutch that you were warned about, are in the past ! On the other hand, we of<br />

the earlier generations still remember it all only too well ! It's been said before, -- but how many happy<br />

<strong>Velocette</strong> owners realize that one of the reasons that we eventually have a silky smooth, light clutch, is<br />

because the system has a sneaky inbuilt servo system ? <strong>The</strong> whole clutch operation system came out<br />

of necessity after Veloce decided to put the clutch inboard of the final drive, - but did the guy on the<br />

drawing board realize the full extent of his genius ? - I doubt it ! For those newcomers to the Velo<br />

mystique, the fact is that due to that rocking plate that operates the clutch thrust race, the effort needed<br />

to release any given spring pressure in the system is pretty much just half of what it would be in a<br />

normal (?) clutch. Think of it this way, without the motor running, & everything static, when you pull the<br />

clutch lever in, you really only lift (or push) , - & release, one side of the clutch assembly, this is not<br />

generally noticeable, but if you care to observe the action without the primary case fitted, the movement<br />

will be obvious, - the back (rear) part of the clutch opens like an ocean clam, - but the front part remains<br />

pretty much firmly closed, ( same as the ocean clam ). Yes ! there will be some movement otherwise,<br />

via the radiused surfaces of the thrust race assembly , but basically that is what happens. ----- So ,<br />

where is this servo concealed ? ---- well, ----- start the motor, & the whole clutch assy. will then stabilize<br />

itself immediately upon clutch release, & this is brought about simply because the action of the motor<br />

rotating the clutch, is actually using a tad of it's effort to drive the balls (or rollers) up an inclined ramp<br />

that is formed when the rocker plate, ( What the hell is the official name of that thing ?) is tilted. <strong>The</strong> fact<br />

is, that it's a little easier to release the (whole) clutch with the engine running. Re. the push pin in the<br />

gearbox that transmits this effort, -- it's nice to see that it has been recognized that minor wear over the<br />

years in the gearbox internal clutch 'bits', makes it imperative that the length of this pin is increased just<br />

enough to compensate for the wear. I have had a (mostly) losing battle for years trying to point this fact<br />

out, & the consequence of ignoring it, & fitting a 'GENUINE' original length pin in a gearbox with a string<br />

of worn components inside the box, - ignore this fact, & you may well be making things much harder for<br />

yourself.<br />

# 5297 <strong>The</strong> name Veloce gave it was Thrust Cup. When you remove one from a machine, examine it<br />

carefully, they can wear thin in the spherical recess & some develop a warp, may be something to do<br />

with stresses of heat treatment working out of ageing metal. I had a useless clutch under the bench,<br />

might still be there, it had what looked like bonded on neoprene, never could get it to work. As clutch<br />

chainwheel bearings are expensive, & hard to find,(beware there are some out there that are small on<br />

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