The Knowledge - Velocette Owners Club
The Knowledge - Velocette Owners Club
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E. <strong>The</strong> Drive Train<br />
E.1. Primary Drive, Chainwheel and Clutch -<br />
L #151 <strong>The</strong> large clutch ballrace assembly C26AS is an interference fit in the chainwheel<br />
assembly, although the same problem would also exist for the clutch thrust bearing if there was no oil in<br />
the chaincase, as you point out. I have converted my clutch thrust bearing assembly to rollers also. I<br />
would be interested if anyone else sees this as a problem and also if anyone knows of a cheap source<br />
of the large ballrace assembly. <strong>The</strong> last one I purchased was about £90 so I would not want to replace<br />
it too often.<br />
#154 I got mine from Grove Classic Motorcycles in Bedfordshire U.K. (+44 (0)1582 873066) as mine<br />
was cracked and loose in the chainwheel. I checked the price list and they are currently listed at £95<br />
#156 Re: clutch chainwheel bearing (not throwout bearing) life with a belt drive. <strong>The</strong>re will always be<br />
some oil in the primary from the engine breathing through the main bearing. I think we should ask<br />
someone who's put some miles on this system, though, to find out if it's enough. Those bearings<br />
sometimes are in short supply! And as a sidebar, on the throwout bearing, rollers are the only way to<br />
go. Two sets of the ball type wore out in 3 years on my VMT before I got wise, and have never had to<br />
change them since (this is 12 years ago).<br />
#157 Some new chain wheel bearings are a thou or so undersize (not necessarily those from Grove<br />
Classics), and have a habit of dropping out of the chain wheel. Check the OD of the new bearing<br />
against the old before you fit it.<br />
L #160 My Venom has traveled just about as far in 13 years with the original ballrace release<br />
bearing. It is adequate when properly lubricated. I was slipping the clutch like a mad 125 GP rider on<br />
the way up Pikes Peak last summer! Stinking SUVs... Simple geometry says that the roller setup needs<br />
good lubrication too. If the heavily loaded rollers on a crankshaft skidded like they do in the release<br />
bearing they would not last a minute. I agree that someone with experience with running a "dry" primary<br />
should give us some hard facts about bearing life. Race bikes probably don't see the long-term clutch<br />
abuse that a street Velo does. Perhaps<br />
#161 Reference the clutch release bearing saga, I modified the brass cage on the bearing by filing it to<br />
take 3/16th" rollers after reading about the mod in Fishtail in the 70's and never had to change any of<br />
the parts despite using the bike as everyday transport for years<br />
#162 When I had mt first Thruxton back in the late 60's early 70's it seemed to "eat" thrust race<br />
bearings of the ball type. I now use the roller type and find in the 10 years of ownership of my second<br />
Thruxton I am still using the same bearing<br />
#164 I have been using bonded clutches and better quality steel plates for about 3 years now and find<br />
them a great improvement. I find that neutral is easier to select, the gear change is smoother, also<br />
when abused the clutch will go out of adjustment but return to its original settings when "rested". I<br />
have found that the chainwheels made in Germany do not last long and seem to wear very quickly. I<br />
have just had them relined at Safetex in Yorkshire, but to date have not had the time or the weather to<br />
used them, has any one else used Safetex relined chainwheels or plates?<br />
L #423 I have a 1954 MAC and I want to rejuvenate the clutch. I have a few bags of inserts from<br />
Martyn Bratby, enough to do all of the plates and the chain wheel. Is it as easy as popping the old ones<br />
out and bunging the new ones in? Or are there other things I should do as well?<br />
#424 Plates must be reasonably flat. Tabs to be deburred, insert new inserts, put every 2nd one in then<br />
reverse plate, and finish off. I have found that a dab of araldite holds the inserts in place , they tend to<br />
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