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Tvisebrivi meTodebi socialur kvlevaSi - Center for Social Sciences

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- qrTamis SemTxvevaSi iniciativa modis Seni mxridan, xolo korufciis<br />

SemTxvevaSi iniciativa modis im mxridan.<br />

- Cemi azriT, SeiZleba xmamaRla ar iyos naTqvami, rom ai, Sen raRac momitane,<br />

magram qvecnobierad, farulad miganiSnebs, rom ai, kargi iqneboda, Tu raRacas<br />

momitan.<br />

- ki.<br />

- sityvaze, vTqvaT, romeliRac samsaxurSi gamocxadda raRac konkursi,<br />

SesarCevi, miiRe monawileoba da geubnebian, rom ai, ki, akmayofileb amas, magram<br />

raRac damatebiTi isini unda gaimarTos — Sen atyob, rom giWianureben saqmes, ar<br />

gawyoben — iZulebuli xdebi rom SesTavazo raRac, “pativs gcem, ra”...<br />

- qrTami me mainc sul cudi gagebiT maxsovs, ai “qrTami misca” da...<br />

- ara, kargi gagebiT verc ityvi.<br />

- kargi gagebaa, rodesac pativs gcemen da Sen pativs scem adamians, magas xom<br />

qrTams ver daarqmev?<br />

- qrTami aris korufciis gamomxatveli meTodi.<br />

maSin sxva kiTxva — korufcia SeiZleba aRviqvaT rogorc raRac fuladi<br />

Tanxis an saCuqris miReba, Tu amas sxva <strong>for</strong>mebic aqvs?<br />

- sxva <strong>for</strong>mebic aqvs, ra Tqma unda.<br />

- da bankSi ver Seitan, namdvilad.<br />

- korufcias aqvs yvelanairi <strong>for</strong>ma — swored is aris, rom Sen arasamarTlebrivad<br />

im adamians, vTqvaT, igive rogorc samsaxurTan dakavSirebiT Camovarda<br />

laparaki, TanamSromlad iyvan da nebismieri — amas SeiZleba, uxeSad geubnebi,<br />

parketis dageba undodes an sul sxva raRacis [SekeTeba]; am SemTxvevaSi Sen<br />

raRacis safasurad ukeTeb amas. imiT ki ara, rom is samarTlebrivad sworia, rom<br />

is daimsaxura an raRaca — sxvas toveb TamaSgareT, imitom rom gawyobs im wuTas<br />

Sen am adamianis SemoTavazebuli winadadeba, da mniSvneloba ara aqvs, es ra iqneba.<br />

- amas kanonic aregulirebs, kanonSi aris, rom sajaro pirebs ar SeuZliaT<br />

miiRon saCuqari, romlis fasic aRemateba [800] lars, Tu sworad maxsovs — aris<br />

konkretuli Tanxa miRebuli, anu saCuqarSi igulisxmeba Tanxac da igulisxmeba<br />

nivTic.<br />

- 1000 lari.<br />

- am SemTxvevaSi maSin is moiTxovs sam 400-larians, da Tavisuflad SeuZlia<br />

rom cal-calke aiRos.<br />

- elementarulad ai, nacnobia, kargi, fuls ar gamovarTmev, magram ukve ici,<br />

rom saCuqari Sen unda “ikisro”.<br />

- madlierebis niSnad.<br />

- eg ukve tradiciuli momentia.<br />

- ara! mainc korufciaa.<br />

- korufcias imas ver davarqmevT, rom eqimTan midixar da “banbanerka” migaqvs.<br />

- ara, ra Tqma unda!<br />

- anda, vTqvaT, pativs scem adamians elementarulad adamianuri motiviT da<br />

ara imitom, rom...<br />

- eg vTqvi weRan, qrTams ver daarqmev-Tqo pativiscemas; pativiscema sxvaa,<br />

qrTami sxvaa.<br />

- eg iyo istoriuli winamZRvari qrTamisa.<br />

aris aq vinme, vinc dRes pirvelad gaigo sityva “korufcia”?<br />

- raRac ar mgonia, saqarTveloSi...<br />

- imdenad xSirad ismis dRes-dReobiT, rom ara mgonia.<br />

aris aq vinme, visac ucxo xalxis TandaswrebiT jer ar ulaparakia imis<br />

Sesaxeb, Tu ra aris korufcia da ar gamouTqvia Tavisi azri?<br />

- Sedegebze gvilaparakia, magram korufcia ar gangvimartavs rogorc aseTi.<br />

romeli qveynebia, Tqveni azriT, sadac korufcia Zalian aris<br />

gavrcelebuli?<br />

- es aris ZiriTadad ganviTarebadi qveynebi, Tumca korufciis xarisxi da<br />

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