Tvisebrivi meTodebi socialur kvlevaSi - Center for Social Sciences
Tvisebrivi meTodebi socialur kvlevaSi - Center for Social Sciences
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maS axla aravin ar unda ifiqros imaze, rom rame seriozuli brZola<br />
daiwyos korufciis winaaRmdeg?<br />
- ara, rogor ara.<br />
- seriozuli brZola da seriozuli cvlilebebi moitana am revoluciam.<br />
- aba ra aris seriozuli cvlileba?<br />
- Zalian bevri!<br />
- me davinaxe cvlileba, dRes-dReobiT myavs axalgazrda axloblebi TbilisSi,<br />
romlebic samsaxurs eZebdnen da sakmaod kargi codna aqvT, erTma gogom sami ena<br />
icis, yvela Tavis profesiaSi, ase vTqvaT, karg donezea. aqamde Zalian wvalobdnen,<br />
da sxvaTaSoris oTxidan samma ukve samsaxuri naxa. me vfiqrob, ukve<br />
iciT, rogori done Semovida da rogori azrovneba? rom Tu ar geyoleba<br />
samsaxurSi profesionali, ukve rom midixar, TbilisSi elementarulad: “inglisuri<br />
ici? kompiuteri ici?” atestacias gadixar da giReben samsaxurSi.<br />
- eg kerZo struqturebSi.<br />
- ki, kerZoSia, magram am SemTxvevaSi TviTon Cveni codniT, Cemi azriT, raRac<br />
patara wvlils SevitanT korufciis winaaRmdeg.<br />
- ki!<br />
- imitom, rom sul rom gvqondes magis imedi, weRan rogorc vTqvi, Tu qvevidan<br />
ar wamovida, is zemodan namdvilad ar iqneba.<br />
- Cemi azriT, kidev, unda Seiqmnas (da mgoni ukve Seqmnilic aris) antikorufciuli<br />
komisiasaviT raRaca, sadac iqnebian arasamTavrobo organizaciebis<br />
wevrebi, ucxoeTidan moyvanili eqspertebi... unda gaakontrolon.<br />
- oRond, es ar unda iyos... [<strong>for</strong>malurad.]<br />
- da unda Sedges es antikorufciuli sabWo da unda gaakontrolon igive Cveni<br />
universiteti da ase mivaRwevT Sedegs.<br />
kidev ra SeiZleba gakeTdes?<br />
- Zalian kargia, precedentebi iqmneba, rom korumpirebulebs iWeren, vinc<br />
ixlarTeba raRaceebSi, iWeren, magram Cumad mainc xdeba, ra.<br />
- Cumad ki ar xdeba, yvelaze didi Secdoma ra aris — iWeren, magram ar iWeren<br />
Tavisebs. axla saCvenebel daWerebze nu damiwyebT laparaks, ra!<br />
- wavidnen, daiWiron anzor burjanaZe da davijereb rom asea, ra!<br />
vin unda ibrZodes, Tqveni azriT, axla saqarTveloSi korufciis winaaRmdeg?<br />
- yvela.<br />
- xalxi.<br />
- yvela absoluturad.<br />
- yvelam, magram mTavrobisgan unda modiodes keTili neba. me rac ginda viyviro...<br />
- ra Tqma unda!<br />
ra SemTvevaSi iqneba brZola korufciis winaaRmdeg dRevandel<br />
saqarTveloSi warmatebuli?<br />
- Tu kanoni ikanonebs.<br />
- Tu ara marto sityviT, aramed Cveni saqmiTac... sinamdvileSi ai gamodian<br />
revoluciis dros, da sinamdvileSi saqme saqmeze rom midges, saqmiT verafers ver<br />
gaakeTeben.<br />
- kanoni ikanonebs da xelfasebi gaizrdeba. magram erTi SemTxveva moxda —<br />
sagadasaxados TanamSromlebs hqondaT 400 lari xelfasi. axla daaWres da 30<br />
lari dautoves.<br />
- ara, 40 lari — nuli mouWres.<br />
- ara, vici rom 30 — Zmakacis deda 400 lars iRebda, atestacia gavlilebi,<br />
samjer gamocdebi Caabarebines, axla meoTxed Caabarebines da 30 larze dasves.<br />
adre iRebda 400 lars. axla wadi da nu moaparineb imas!<br />
- jerjerobiT mainc Zalian Znelad moxdeba es, magram imedi ar unda<br />
daikargos.<br />
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