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Tvisebrivi meTodebi socialur kvlevaSi - Center for Social Sciences

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- ki.<br />

- [anu] moewyobi, da pirvel sesiamde Tu ar dafarav am gadasaxads, gagricxaven.<br />

- me xom ar viyavi fuliT mowyobili da cxonebuli g. a. — me xom ar viyavi<br />

fuliT mowyobili, da es xom icoda iman, iyo proreqtori, da Tu vinme raRacas<br />

akeTebda fuliT, midioda magasTan, da is mere reqtorTan iyofda. me rom ar<br />

viyavi fuliT mowyobili, pirveli kvira araferi da meore kviras biWebma dalies<br />

sasmeli da kursze viyaviT sami kaci fxizlebi, ra — atyda mTeli ambavi,<br />

dagvibares xuTi kaci, ori CemTan erTad sxva, vinc ufulod moewyo da ori kidev<br />

fuliT mowyobilebi, magram imaT Zalian cudi raRaceebi gaakeTes simTvraleSi.<br />

me ise iZulebuli gamxades, rom meRiarebina, rom ar gavegde, rom mec davlie,<br />

gesmis?<br />

- eg ukve dabali donea raRac, sxva sakiTxze gadavdivarT. axla me minda<br />

prestiJs Sevexo — ese igi, nulzea dacemuli universitetis prestiJi, azri ara<br />

aqvs, wiTels aiReb, mwvanes aiReb, cisfers aiReb, mniSvneloba ara aqvs aranairi.<br />

- da me mindoda gamemaxvelebina yuradReba TviTon leqtorebis doneze —<br />

piradad me ucxo enebze vswavlob, magram me Tu ar movemzade da me Tu ar viswavle<br />

kerZo maswavlebelTan...<br />

- eg skolaSia eg problema da magazec vilaparakebT.<br />

- ... kerZo maswavlebeli Tu ar meyoleba, me vinc maswavlis — nu movkvdebi, me<br />

mgoni, namdvilad.<br />

- is ver gaswavlis.<br />

- xandaxan, magaliTad — jek londonis istoria movuyeviT, magram<br />

sinamdvileSi sul sxva rame movuyeviT da ubralod saxelebi SevcvaleT da qali —<br />

cota nela moyeviTo, rom cota SeesworebinasaviT; me ar movyevi, Cemma kurselma<br />

gaakeTa, da Tavisi sakurso miutana TviTon, ese igi gadaaqseroqsa Cumad da<br />

miutana, nu qali ver mixvda.<br />

- anu kvalifikacia aris Zalian dabali.<br />

- ki.<br />

- bodiSi, erTi wami, Tundac CvenTan, iuristebTan rac xdeba — am<br />

universitetSi romc gadawyvitos vinmem, rom iswavlos im programiT, rac aris<br />

dRes — verasodes ver gaxdeba normaluri iuristi, Tu TviTon ar aris aqtiuri<br />

pirovneba.<br />

- eg mindoda [meTqva], TviTon aqtiuroba Zalian [mniSvnelovania].<br />

- ki, jer marto masalebi — ganaTlebis sistemaSi marTla re<strong>for</strong>ma unda<br />

gatardes, imdenad moZvelebul raRaceebs vswavlobT, ubralod...<br />

- SeiZleba vinmem iswavlos, vTqvaT, 60-ian wlebSi gamocemuli wignidan, magram<br />

iuristisTvis es aris dauSvebeli.<br />

- ki, zustad!<br />

- davamateb, ra, Tu SeiZleba — ai is patiosani leqtorebic, romlebic Zalian<br />

cotaa am universitetSi, isinic garkveulwilad xels uwyoben korufcias, da<br />

ratom. magaliTad, sociologiurze mowyoba pirvel weliwads Rirda 400 dolari.<br />

mere, rodesac prestiJi aiwia, ramodenime leqtorma daxvewa jgufi da Zalian<br />

kargad gamoiyvana, igive konferenciebze waiyvana da raRacaSi CarTo — mere<br />

gaZvirda es, faqtia ra, 800 dolaramde iyo SarSan, saSualod.<br />

- ara, meti.<br />

- SeiZleba. anu, ese igi, ginda Tu ar ginda, mainc xels uwyob korufcias, ra!<br />

- korufciul sistemaSi yvelaferi...<br />

- albaT, prestiJis xarjze Rirs raRac, albaT...<br />

axla minda Sevecado Zalian mokled SevajamoT is, rac ukve vTqviT, da mere<br />

gadavideT sxva Temaze. ese igi , Tqvens studentur cxovrebaSi yvelas gvxdebaT<br />

raRac korufciuli faqtebi da yvelas erTxel mainc, Soridan mainc<br />

daginaxavT is, rac xdeba arakanonierad. es exeba (a) universitetSi Cabarebas,<br />

(b) sesiebs da (g) saxelmwifo gamocdebs. amis garda, Tu aris kidev rame<br />

korufciuli SemTxvevebi Tqvens studentur cxovrebaSi?<br />

- sxva raRa darCa?<br />

Tu SegiZliaT damisaxeloT korufciis raime faqti, romelsac, Tqveni<br />

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