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T: njo fasi inyee: ilipikana mvita
ya Katanga yote tu/ sawa vile
itaweza kuwa: histoire murefu:
pale juu palikuwa bwana moja:
alitombokaka/ aliingia mu armée ya
Katanga/
F: mm/
T: alikuwa Kabinda/
F: yee:
T: kisha alitombokaka tena:
alipandaka yulu ya mumbunda hapa:
anaanza kupika: mortier ya
Katanga/ ngambo yote/ ya com: ya
mazones/ ya macommunes/ mu Kenya:
mu Katuba: eko naua tu/ kisha
nayee balimuuaka wee/
F: alikuwa wazimu?
T: alikuwa tu: sijue kama ni
bishilani: kama ni nini/
F: aah/
T: kisha nayee: [rummages]
F: oui/
T: kisha na yeye ali: balimuuaka/
abakumuake balimubambaka/
F: mm/
T: balimufungaka mikono: na
[claps] kumukokota ku jep [sic]:
F: mm/
T: mbio kabisa: sawa anaanguka
chini: eko naneenda kumukokota: na
kukatika nyama yote: anakufa/
F: banani: ba?
T: baKatangais/ yee alikuwa
Katangais/ aliingia mu armée ya
Katanga/
F: eyo/
T: na kisha alitomboka sasa/
F: [chuckles, unbelieving]
T: mm/
F: ile ulijua: eh: uliona ao
balikuambia?
T: non: balinielezea/
F: baliniele:
T: ile ilisemewa tu fasi yote ata
ku radio ya Katanga ilimwaka/
F: c'est vrai? na: ile avions: ni
avions gani pale?
T: ile avions: ni: nani: gambera/
F: ni gambera?
T: gambera/
F: ni: gambera ilikuwa ya ONU?
T: ilikuwa ya ONU/ Fouga Magister
ilikuwa ya: Katanga/
F: ya Katanga/
T: eheh/
F: kumbe kambera: balifanya vita
ya: ya Union Minière?
T: ya Union Minière/ njo
ilikombanaka: na kupika mabombes
F: Mm-hmm. The smoke stack of
Gécamines.
T: It marks the one place where
there was fighting during the
entire Katanga war. [What I can
tell you about it] would be a long
story [but let me give just this
one incident]: There, way up [on
the smoke stack], was one man who
had been exploding. He had joined
the Katangese army...
F: Mm-hmm.
T: ...although he was a Kabinda.
F: He [was]?
T: Eventually, when this attack of
rage came on him, he climbed to
top of the smoke stack here and
began to fire his Katangese
mortar, aiming in every direction,
right into the communities of
Kenia and Katuba. He was killing
people. Finally, he was killed,
too.
F: Was he crazy?
T: He was just -- I don't know,
was it rancor or what?
F: I see.
T: The he too...
F: Yes.
T: Eventually he was killed, but
not right away. They caught him...
F: Mm-hmm.
T: ...tied his hands together and
dragged him away behind a jeep.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: They went really fast and, as
he was on the ground, he was being
torn up, his flesh was torn to
pieces and he died.
F: Who did this?
T: The Katangese. He was a
Katangese soldier himself, he had
joined the Katangese army.
F: I see.
T: But eventually [he just
couldn't take it anymore and]
exploded.
F: [chuckles, unbelieving]
T: Mm-hmm.
F: How did you know this? Did you
see it or did they tell you [about
it]?
T: No, they told me about it.
F: They told you...
T: There was talk about this
everywhere, even on Katanga radio
went on about it.
F: Is that true? And what are
those planes there?
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