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<strong>APS</strong> - <strong>The</strong> <strong>History</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Zaire</strong> <strong>by</strong> <strong>Tshibumba</strong> <strong>Kanda</strong> <strong>Matulu</strong> - Third Sessio... file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/USER/Mes%20documents/...<br />
30.<br />
F: tena: monument ya J: ya: ya :<br />
MPR: numéro nonante et un:<br />
[Painting 92: <strong>The</strong> Party Monument<br />
at Kipushi]<br />
T: nonante et un:<br />
F: ni paka kuonyesha:<br />
T: ni kuonyesha: eeh: naissa:<br />
flambeau ya révolution/<br />
F: mm/<br />
T: mm/<br />
F: vile ulisema utaweza kwa: fanya<br />
hata: wala ya hapa Lubumbashi:<br />
T: ah nitaweza kufanya Lubumbashi<br />
ou bien nitafanya: fasi yote mais<br />
sawa minaikala Kipushi: nafanya ya<br />
Kipushi/ ou bien kama unapenda<br />
kafoto yake nitakuleteako/ ni<br />
vile/<br />
F: mm/<br />
T: eeh/<br />
31.<br />
F: tena: discours à l'ONU:<br />
[Painting 93: Mobutu's Speech<br />
before the United Nations<br />
Assembly]<br />
T: à l'ONU:<br />
F: ile [rummaging with painting]:<br />
tulisumbulia juu ya ile/<br />
T: c'est bon/<br />
F: sawa minaona: donc uliweka ma:<br />
kabila yote ku fasi yabo:<br />
T: ku fasi yabo/<br />
F: hapa mu Amérique du Nord ni: ni<br />
nani kule?<br />
T: Amérique du: du Sud? non:<br />
F: ? Nord/<br />
T: mule: ni: non: umu ni Amérique?<br />
ni: nègres/<br />
F: ni nègres?<br />
T: eeh/<br />
F: ni nègres ...?...<br />
T: Américain/<br />
F: oui oui/<br />
T: eeh/<br />
F: na tena: mu: mu nani? eeh<br />
[interrupt conversation and<br />
recording] na: Indien? Indien iko<br />
na:<br />
T: iko/<br />
F: na nani: na:<br />
T: aah/<br />
F: kichwa yake na:<br />
T: bon/ Indien iko na: bapeaux<br />
T: Yes.<br />
F: To show he is the pope.<br />
T: <strong>The</strong>re you are.<br />
30.<br />
F: <strong>The</strong>n there is the monument <strong>of</strong><br />
the MPR, number ninety-one<br />
[Painting 92: <strong>The</strong> Party Monument<br />
at Kipushi].<br />
T: Ninety-one.<br />
F: It is to show...<br />
T: It is to show the torch <strong>of</strong> the<br />
revolution.<br />
F: Mm-hmm.<br />
T: Mm-hmm.<br />
F: As you said, you could also do<br />
the Party monument here in<br />
Lubumbashi.<br />
T: Oh, I could do Lubumbashi, or<br />
any place. But I live in Kipushi,<br />
so I did the one in Kipushi. If<br />
you want I can bring you a small<br />
photograph <strong>of</strong> it. It is just the<br />
same.<br />
F: Mm-hmm.<br />
T: Yes.<br />
31.<br />
F: And then the speech at the<br />
United Nations' [Painting 93:<br />
Mobutu's Speech before the United<br />
Nations Assembly].<br />
T: At the United Nations'.<br />
F: This one [rummaging], we talked<br />
about it.<br />
T: That's alright.<br />
F: As I can see, you put every<br />
race <strong>of</strong> people into their place.<br />
T: <strong>The</strong>ir place.<br />
F: Here in North America, who are<br />
those people?<br />
T: You mean in South America.<br />
F: No, North America.<br />
T: <strong>The</strong>re, in America? Those are<br />
negroes.<br />
F: Negroes?<br />
T: Yes.<br />
F: Negroes?<br />
T: American[ Negroes].<br />
F: Yes, yes.<br />
T: Yes.<br />
F: And then, where is this? Wait<br />
[interrupt conversation and<br />
recording] ... And this Indian?<br />
<strong>The</strong> Indian has...<br />
T: He has...<br />
F: On his head he has...<br />
T: Alright, the Indian has a --<br />
they are the redskins, right?<br />
F: Yes?<br />
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