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T: aah/ sasa sawa histoire
inaisha:
F: oui/
T: unata: unatamani: mawazo
ingine/
F: non hapana/ minaona/ si vile?
T: ah wee uniambia kama mimi:
F: non: sikukuwa na mawazo ingine
mais:
T: oh: mais:
F: utaweza
T: ...?...
F: utaweza kuweka mawazo yote mu
tableaux?
T: ah oui/ nitaweza tena/ bashi
[chuckles] nitakatala namna gani:
njo iko na mi iko natumika: niko
nafwata vile/ nitatumika tu kama
uko mufano/
F: mais kintu moya nilikuwa
kuuliza tena mais: ile kitabu
ulisoma/ sawa: mbele ulisema:
nilikuwa kusoma kitabu moya ya
Français/
T: bon/
F: auteur Français/
T: aah/ ya vie ya Lumumba:
F: ilikuwa: vie ya Lumumba?
T: eeh/
F: ilikuwa nani?
T: ooh: non: ilikuwaka kitabu ya
commissaire moya: wa: mapolice eh?
zamani/ zamani/
F: muzungu?
T: non: muntu mweushi/ zamani/
sasa: ile kitabu: kilikuwaka na:
sawa mukubwa yangu ni ule wa ku
Likasi:
F: mm/
T: alikuwa rafiki: njo
kumupatiaka/ tukisoma tu kwa
shiku: moja/ anabeba na kubeba/ ni
ki:
F: nani aliandika hii?
T: ah non/ sikukamataka mais: ile
wakati sifahamu/ hapa tena
nalikuya: pale nalikwendaka siku
moja kwa: Anni:
F: mm/
T: ku bibliothèque yake/ nalikuta
tena: ile vie ya Lumumba tena mara
ingine/ sasa hapa tu/
F: ku Anni?
T: kwa Anni huku/
F: Anni?
T: unaona nyumba: Anni: huyu
nalifansia portrait yake/
F: hapana/ Anni njo nini?
T: Anni?
finished.
F: Yes.
T: You would like more thoughts.
F: No, I see [what I see], right?
T: Well, you tell me, I...
F: No, I had no more ideas, but...
T: Oh, but...
F: Could you...
T: ...?...
F: You put any thought into
paintings?
T: Oh yes. I still could. Come on
[chuckles], how could I refuse?
It's up to me to work, I could go
on. I'll work if you have
something [I should do].
F: But there is one thing I wanted
to ask you, about the book you
read. Because earlier you said, "I
read a book by a Frenchman."
T: Alright.
F: A French author.
T: Ah, about the life of Lumumba.
F: So it was the life of Lumumba?
T: Yes.
F: Who was [the author]?
T: Oh, no [that I don't know]. The
book belonged to a police officer,
right? Long ago.
F: A white?
T: No, a black man. It was long
ago. At the moment, the book is
with my elder brother [or sister],
the one who lives in Likasi.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: [The police officer] was his
friend, so he gave him [the book].
If we had a day to read it [that
was all], then he carried it away.
F: But who wrote this book?
T: Ah, I did not take notes at the
time, I don't know [the author].
Just now, when I went to Anni's
one day...
F: Mm-hmm.
T: ... I saw [the book], this life
of Lumumba, again in her library.
This was just recently.
F: At Anni's.
T: At Anni's here.
F: Anni?
T: You see the house -- Anni, the
one whose portrait I did.
F: No. What is "Anni?" 26
T: Anni?
F: Mm-hmm.
T: Oh, that's her name, the name
of a person. A woman, her name ...
F: In what part of town [does she
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