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<strong>APS</strong> - <strong>The</strong> <strong>History</strong> <strong>of</strong> <strong>Zaire</strong> <strong>by</strong> <strong>Tshibumba</strong> <strong>Kanda</strong> <strong>Matulu</strong> - Third Sessio... file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/USER/Mes%20documents/...<br />

F: na ule militaire anamufwata?<br />

T: ah ule ni : ni: <strong>of</strong>ficier co:<br />

nani: ts: garde corps/<br />

F: garde corps?<br />

T: eeh/<br />

F: [reading inscription] empereur<br />

du Sud Kasai/<br />

T: empereur du Sud Kasai/<br />

F: état autonome: premier royaume:<br />

T: royaume:<br />

F: Luba: dans le vingtième siècle/<br />

T: eh/<br />

F: na inaonyesha fasi gani kule?<br />

hii/<br />

T: inaonyesha mu Mbuji Mayi/<br />

F: mu Mbuji Mayi?<br />

T: mm/ pale banaisha kufika:<br />

angaria sawa banaisha kuyenga<br />

nyumba yote:<br />

F: na:<br />

T: maCocaCola:<br />

F: maCocaCola/<br />

T: maPhilips iliingia:<br />

malibrairies:<br />

F: Ilunga?<br />

T: ah sawa hivi: Zairinisation ile<br />

tunasema:<br />

F: Kayembe:<br />

T: mm/ Zairinisation/<br />

F: aah/<br />

T: oh: ilitoka na kule ku: ku<br />

Baluba/<br />

F: ku bazu: Mbuji Mayi/<br />

T: ni bantu: njo balianza mara ya<br />

kwanza/ sababu bo abakuye na<br />

muzungu: balifika tu: na kuyenga:<br />

na kuleta ile bitu ya mamagazins:<br />

tout ça/<br />

F: hata baGrecs habakuwa?<br />

T: apana/ ata Grec/<br />

F: mm/<br />

T: balikuwa tu bo benyewe/<br />

16.<br />

F: sasa: numéro septante sept: Sud<br />

Kasai/ [Painting 78: <strong>The</strong> Kanioka<br />

Revolt] bon: sawa vile uli:<br />

ulinielezea: ni kwa Kanioka:<br />

T: eheh/<br />

F: aaah:<br />

T: na ba:<br />

F: walikuwa kubishana na:<br />

baKatanga/ Luba Katanga/<br />

T: non: na: na baLuba Kasai/<br />

T: Those two women were the<br />

keepers <strong>of</strong> his paraphernalia.<br />

F: And the military person who<br />

follows him.<br />

T: Oh, he is an <strong>of</strong>ficer -- what do<br />

you call him? -- a body guard.<br />

F: A body guard?<br />

T: Yes.<br />

F: [reading inscription] "Emperor<br />

<strong>of</strong> South Kasai."<br />

T: Emperor <strong>of</strong> South Kasai.<br />

F: [continues reading] "Autonomous<br />

state, first kingdom"...<br />

T: Kingdom.<br />

F: ..."[<strong>of</strong> the] Luba in the<br />

twentieth century."<br />

T: Yes.<br />

F: And what is the place shown on<br />

this picture?<br />

T: It shows Mbuji-Mayi.<br />

F: This is in Mbuji-Mayi?<br />

T: Mm-hmm. This is were they had<br />

come to. Look at all the houses<br />

they had finished building.<br />

F: And [pointing to signs]...<br />

T: Coca Cola.<br />

F: Coca Cola.<br />

T: Phillips had an outlet there<br />

and there were also bookstores.<br />

F: And the names "Ilunga?"<br />

T: Ah, that stands for<br />

Zairianization, let's say.<br />

F: And "Kayembe?"<br />

T: Mm-hmm. Zairianization.<br />

F: I see.<br />

T: It started there with the<br />

Baluba.<br />

F: In Mbuji-Mayi.<br />

T: It was the people. <strong>The</strong> people<br />

themselves began [with<br />

Zairianization]. <strong>The</strong>re were no<br />

Whites. People just arrived, built<br />

the town, and brought the wares to<br />

stock their shops with, all that.<br />

F: Not even Greeks were there?<br />

T: No, not a single Greek.<br />

F: Mm-hmm.<br />

T: It was just the people.<br />

16.<br />

F: Now to number seventy-seven,<br />

South Kasai [Painting 78: <strong>The</strong><br />

Kanioka Revolt]. Fine, as you told<br />

me, the scene is in Kanioka<br />

country.<br />

T: Yes.<br />

F: I see.<br />

T: And they...<br />

F: <strong>The</strong>y were fighting with people<br />

from Katanga, the Luba-Katanga.<br />

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