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peut-être na mi batakuwa kuniua/
sijue/ bababa bote bana...?...
kusema tu: hii mwaka shijue kama
nitakomesha batoto yangu/ ni kweli
tuliona paka: mu le vingt quatre
novembre: [claps] Mobutu anakamata
pouvoir/
F: mm/
T: tulikuwa na madoutes/ kila
muntu yote/ alisema ooh: mais
c'est un muKongo: que voulez-vous/
[claps] itakuwa tu: fujo/ bengine
asema ooh: peut-être/ mais:
atukujue/
F: mm/
T: kweli shiku kidogo: tuliona
kama: ni kweli aliweza mambo: sawa
vile: tuko naye leo ...?...
F: mm/
T: tuko mu paix: tranquilité:
tunaikala bien: sawa vile unakuwa
kwako unakuwa kutembelea: niko
natembea na nguvu mu njia umu:
?nafukuziwa huku/
F: mm/
T: eeh/ siwaze asema ule atanipika
mushale/ shiwaze asema ule
atanifukuza: ah ah/ sasa unaanza
kutembea tu nguvu: asema niko mu
inchi kwa lakini/
F: mm/
T: eeh/
F: [reading from painting] vive
trois zed?
T: vive trois zed: c'est à dire:
vive trois Zaire/ Zaire monnaie:
Zaire fleuve: Zaire pays/
F: oui/ mm/ ile tuliuza mbele/
T: ah ile: njo shiku tu ya
kupatana na mweye/
F: c'est ça/
T: eeh/
F: vingt quatre novembre: ilikuwa
tu:
T: vingt quatre novembre: ilikuwa
mu septante quatre eh? tuko na:
F: novembre septante trois/
T: ah aha/ alikuwa septante trois:
F: ya mu mwisho ...?...
T: tuko napréparer: bonne année:
F: bonne année: septante quatre/
T: njo minatosha ile eeh/
F: ahah/
T: mm/
F: nazani ilikuwa mu: mu mwisho ya
septembre:
T: decembre: ilikuwa decembre/
F: decembre septante trois/
were, it was a time when we said:]
"Perhaps this is the year when
they come to kill me. I don't
know." All the parent were saying:
"I don't know about this year,
will I be able to raise my
children? Truly, the only thing we
saw was that, on November 24,
Mobutu took over.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: We had our doubts, every one of
us. "Oh well," it was said, "he is
someone from the lower Congo, what
do you expect? [claps] There will
be trouble." Others said: "Oh,
perhaps..." But we did not know.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: The truth is, we soon saw that
he knew how to take control of
things, as he does up to this day.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: We have peace and tranquility,
we live well in our homes and when
we travel -- I walk around with
strength [no longer fearing] I
will be chased away from this
place.
F: Mm-hmm.
T: Yes. I don't worry that someone
will shoot me with an arrow or
another is going to chase me. Now
you begin to walk with strength,
telling yoursel
F: "I live in my own country."
F: Mm-hmm.
T: Yes.
F: [reading from painting] "Long
live the three Z?"
T: "Long live the three Z?" That
stands for Zaire, the currency,
Zaire, the river, Zaire, the
country.
F: Yes, mm-hmm. This is the first
painting we bought.
T: Ah, this one, that was day I
met you.
F: That's it.
T: Yes.
F: November 24 -- it was...
T: November 24, it was in '74,
right? We had...
F: I was in November of '73.
T: Ah, yes, is was in '73.
F: Toward the end of...
T: I was preparing for New Year's
--
F: New Year's of '74.
T: That is when I came up [with
this painting].
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